<p>m2ck, He had 42 out of 49 in the multiple choice section of SAT Writing.</p>
<p>m2ck: That is the raw score but not the scaled subscore. His score report (and Web page) should have the multiple-choice subscore on it.</p>
<p>In the easiest terms, take PSAT (say 212) and add a 0 so you should have a score of 2120 on SAT to back up your PSAT. That or better will probably be fine</p>
<p>I went to the CollegeBoard and now understand what you mean. He had a 63 in Multiple Choice Writing of the SAT and 8 on the essay. </p>
<p>I think his testing history suggests he has been consistently getting better e.g. </p>
<p>2010 PSAT score 173 (CR:67, W: 44, M:62)</p>
<p>2011 SAT score 2000 (CR:69, W:62, M:69)</p>
<p>2011 PSAT score 219 (CR:74, W:76, M:69) </p>
<p>June 2012 SAT Math II 750.</p>
<p>However, I do not know how NMSC will read it.</p>
<p>Above, I meant to say, I went to the college board* website * to look at his score reports. </p>
<p>So, what do you think, should he retake the SAT or will that 2000 be enough?</p>
<p>“In the easiest terms, take PSAT (say 212) and add a 0 so you should have a score of 2120 on SAT to back up your PSAT. That or better will probably be fine”</p>
<p>NO. You do not have to have a SAT score that “backs up” your PSAT score. You could have a 235 PSAT (2350), and if you score a 2000 on the SAT, that is fine for NMF.</p>
<p>"Above, I meant to say, I went to the college board website to look at his score reports. </p>
<p>So, what do you think, should he retake the SAT or will that 2000 be enough?"</p>
<p>It’s fine for NMCorp, but will it be high enoough for the schools that he’s applying to?</p>
<p>Just to complete the thought:</p>
<p>So his effective score (because the NMSC excludes the essay from its consideration) is 1380 + (63x10) = 2010. This should be confirmation enough for NMF, if our collective CC wisdom is accurate. </p>
<p>The question of whether or not his target schools will like it is another issue.</p>
<p>And my apologies for addressing my previous message to m2ck when I meant perazziman.</p>
<p>Thanks Descartesz. We were thinking of sending Sep ACT results to target schools. S seems to like the fact that he can take the ACT in Sep and start preparing for the SAT Physics test rather than wait until Oct to take the SAT.</p>
<p>m2ck, You are right, a 2000 may not be competitive for his reach schools. Hopefully, these schools can consider the fact that *subsequently *he scored 219 on the PSAT/ NMSQT (percentile rank equivalent to approx. 2200 on the SAT) and a 750 on the SAT Math II, in addition to decent scores on the Sep ACT and Nov. SAT Physics tests.</p>
<p>"So, what do you think, should he retake the SAT or will that 2000 be enough? " </p>
<p>No. He needs to retake it. The colleges dont even look at the PSAT score. NMSF standing is a “given” for many students at the most selective, competitive colleges, especially those who dont sponsor NMF’s . SAT scores are MUCH more important than any subject test score. If he studies a lot this summer, and takes a lot of practice tests, using the Collegeboard’s test prop book, his scores WILL go up .</p>
<p>It is true that the PSAT score plays little, if any, role in college admissions decisions. But if they are satisfied with the ACT score (33 would be about equivalent to 2190), are comfortable that score will do for their target schools, and have the necessary Subject tests scores where required, there is no reason to obtain another SAT score, too.</p>
<p>* these schools can consider the fact that subsequently he scored 219 on the PSAT/ NMSQT*</p>
<p>Colleges aren’t going to know WHAT he got on his PSAT. That score doesn’t get reported to colleges.</p>
<p>m2ck, Does this mean there is no way for them to confirm whether he made nmsf? Thanks again for you help.</p>
<p>Colleges get lists of who makes NMSF from NMCorp…they don’t get the scores. And, since many schools don’t care about NMSF/F, who knows if they even look at the list of identified NMSFs (or if they even bother getting the list)???</p>
<p>And, think about it…they don’t need the score. They aren’t going to want to look up each kid’s score against his home state to check “did he make that state’s cutoff”. No. that’s the point of the list. If the kid is on the list, he made it.</p>
<p>Thanks m2ck. So, if my son gets nmsf, they will know he has atleast a 216 (the TX state cut off) on the PSAT? In addition they will know he has a 750 on SAT math II subject test. In such a case, it is possible they may actually appreciate an ACT score as another point of reference (since the PSAT is so similar to the SAT.</p>
<p>"So, if my son gets nmsf, they will know he has at least a 216 " </p>
<p>No. </p>
<p>read this again:
“Colleges get lists of who makes NMSF from NMCorp…they don’t get the scores”
"If the kid is on the list, he made it. "</p>
<p>^I think I see what you mean menloparkmom and m2ck. In other words, they may not bother to find out the cut off in son´s particular state and assume his PSAT was around a 2000 the same as his SAT. I will be sure to advise son to mention his PSAT subscores etc in his essays. Thanks very much for your help.</p>
<p>I don’t think it’s a good idea to mention PSAT scores/subscores in essays. Why not either just take the SAT again…or just submit a great ACT score to colleges and leave the SAT just for NMCorp.</p>
<p>"I don’t think it’s a good idea to mention PSAT scores/subscores in essays. Why not either just take the SAT again…or just submit a great ACT score to colleges and leave the SAT just for NMCorp. "</p>
<p>I totally agree. this would be like him mentioning how well he did on the 8th grade quiz bowl team, when he did not do quiz bowl after 9th grade . It would look lame. </p>
<p>Colleges DONT CARE what his PSAT score was! Really! Just have him take the SAT again, if he wants a real chance at winning any NMSF scholarships.</p>