<p>ditto the nice words about your son!! Congrats on that NROTC! That is no small feat either!! I would still go back to the blue and gold officer and repeat his desire, repeat his commitment to USNA and willingness to spend a year at NAPS to make sure he is the best he can be when he hits USNA. It can't hurt. Best of luck to him!</p>
<p>momathome- first and foremost, congratulations to your son his NROTC scholarship. Job well done! More officers come out of the NROTC program than the USNA itself.<br>
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The reason that I ask is that USNA Admissions has told my son that his math scores aren't high enough for him to be a strong contender (even though he wants to take Arabic and go into Intelligence-not go into engineering).
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<p>No matter the major, all will have a core of engineering courses and will graduate with a Bachelors of Science degree. Calculus, chemistry, physics, electrical engineering, thermo, etc- just some of the "required" core classes, even for Arabic and intelligence, and strong math is key to success.</p>
<p>As an aside, intelligence falls under restricted lines- meaning, if you do not meet pre-commissioning physical requirements, you are restricted in what line of service you can enter. If you are physically fit, you are expected to go to any of the unrestricted lines; if not, intelligence is an option. The vast majority of USNA graduates will be in the unrestricted service communities. </p>
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he has a nomination for USNA but they don't seem to want him...
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Unfortunately there are about 3500 candidates that will get nominations for USNA, from which about 1300-1500 will be offered appointments, to yield a class size of 1240, give or take. Each year differs a bit in how many offers go out, depending on how many "yes's" come back. </p>
<p>Naps and application overall:
I would suggest your son contact his BGO and ask where his application needs improvement- you may get some direction there. Will echo the suggestions posted by JonDavid above.</p>
<p>USNA may not be in the cards for him this year, but if it remains your son's goal, then encourage him to consider applying again next year with a year of college under his belt. Take classes similar to those encountered in plebe year (calculus, chemistry and English lit). As many as 1/3 of the admission class each year have a year of post-high school schooling under their belt.</p>
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he has been told that he is Triple Q'ed for West Point but he doesn't have a nomination!
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Suggest you contact your MOC and let them know he is triple q'd for USMA and see if they can extend a nomination. It is worth the call.</p>
<p>Best of luck to your son!</p>
<p>Navy 2010</p>
<p>Thanks for the info and the suggestions - my son probably will contact his MOC and find out if his nomination can be changed. USNA was his first choice and so he has been reluctant to have his nomination for there jeopardized and then having them decide they do want him but his nom is gone!</p>
<p>He is very happy to have the NROTC and will take that route with no qualms if an academy doesn't work for him...but he still isn't quite ready to give up on his first choice. He knows that the math and science requirements are very strong at USNA and he has no problem with that - he did very well in chemistry and is taking a college level pre-calc class now and getting a B. He believes that he would do okay at the academy in those areas, even though it is not his greatest passion but that is why he told admissions that he would be happy to go to NAPS if they were concerned and wanted him to show his ability (He is not the world's best test taker and so his SAT scores don't give a great picture of what he does really know.)</p>
<p>He knows that his options don't end with his first attempt at admission - I suspect that he will end up reapplying next year and maybe that will be better - if he does well in his first year of college classes the Academy may give him a more serious look next time.</p>
<p>Lots of options - lots of possiblities - how fun to be young and have the whole world in front of you! (And what an amazing group of young people out there! I'm honored to be his mom!)</p>
<p>Out of the 3500 candidates that receive a nomination, approximately how many get an invitation to NAPS?</p>
<p>Well.. in the class of 2012, there are 202 midshipmen that entered directly from NAPS, and it was around that number for the class of 2011, I'm sure. It's probably pretty much that number all across the board.. probably varies slightly depending on the influx of "potential" mids that they find worthy for the prep school.</p>
<p>I'm not so sure that ALL students from NAPS go directly to Naval Academy...
Can anyone verify the total amount of the 3500 candidates that are offered to attend NAPS?</p>
<p>fussman what do you do in the navy?</p>
<p>I'm a Corpsman.. which is the Navy's primary Medical field job on the enlisted side.</p>
<p>We work in a variety of places across a wide spectrum of locations.. hospitals, ships, clinics.. anything. Do pretty much anything medical related under the command of Nurses and Doctors. Stuff like Emergency care, OB-GYN, Pediatric, Pre-op, Post-op.. anything. And there are also specialization schools for stuff like Lab techs, Surgical techs, X-Ray personnel, Dental techs.. anything you can think of.</p>
<p>Personally, I'm an FMF Corpsman.. which pretty much means I've been sort of "tailored" by the Navy to be primarily a combat medic.. at least for the next 2 years at this command. I'm stationed on a Marine Corps base right now also..</p>
<p>It was surprisingly the perfect opportunity to put this package for the Academy together, and I had a great deal of support from everyone.</p>
<p>Are you in the military?</p>
<p>This is off topic but my mom is an NP in the Navy and she LOVES her corpsman</p>
<p>Didn't they stop training corpsman for a while?
Wernt they trying to go all civilian? bad idea..</p>
<p>No... I really don't think so... then again, it might of happened.</p>
<p>Corpsmen have been a vital part of the Navy for decades.. they're the only med people that assist Marines in combat. And they're pretty much the most utilized rate.. the quota is almost always filled.</p>
<p>And besides.. it's much more cost-efficient to train corpsmen in mass amounts (They graduate about 100-200 every week) than to hire civilians at a much higher cost.</p>
<p>It is my understanding there are about 300 students at NAPS. The Merchant Marine Academy and the Coast Guard Academy use it as their prep school as well. So, again, just my understanding, but I think the vast majority of the 300 will go on to USNA if they do well and get their CO's recommendation, but some go to the Coast Gaurd and some go to Merchant Marine Academies.</p>
<p>Nope.</p>
<p>USMMA uses New Mexico Military Institute for their "prep school", although USCGA DOES use NAPS.</p>
<p>I read somewhere that in the last year or so, USCGA stopped using NAPS, and all the NAPSters these days aspire to USNA.</p>
<p>NAPS is generally used for athletes and prior enlisted. USNA is primarily using the Foundation program for students they think will make excellent Mids but need more academic foundations. You should be asking about that route. </p>
<p>In addition, a lot of students who really want to go to the USNA but don't get offered an appointment or a slot with the Foundation program will often go to one of the Foundation schools their first year and still participate with the Foundation students, taking exactly the same classes and activities the Foundation students take. That is always an option. It doesn't make for guarantees, but it can show motivation and put a student on par with other students that are probably going to be at the Academy. (About 97% of the students who go the Foundation route get accepted.)</p>
<p>Oldegrad.... TRUE.... Very true.... On another post - Oldegrad also corrected me in regards to athletes which my statement being "reserved" for athletes is incorrect. (It does have to have the same percentages as at the Academy.)</p>
<p>Generally speaking, NAPS is offered to regular and reserve Navy and Marine Corps enlisted men and women who are seeking Academy appointments to strengthen academic backgrounds. Then, it is offered generally to civilian candidates who are not successful on their first attempt at admission. It is a 1-year postsecondary school.</p>
<p>Naval Academy Foundation is also generally offered to civilian candidates who are not successful on their first attempt at admission. This is generally used to enhance qualifications for admissions - whether it be academics, physical, or more military knowledge. Schools associated with the Foundation may or may not be postsecondary.</p>
<p>Both are viable alternatives for students who maybe need more preparation or don't get into the Academy and truly want to attend.</p>
<p>Oldgrad - also very true - that there is risk in some of the Foundation programs. I had in my mind the ones that were postsecondary, which aren't the majority of the Foundation schools - that would allow someone to be well on his/her way to completing a degree. THANK YOU FOR HELPING!! (collective brains are great)</p>
<p>WHOOOOOOOO!!!</p>
<p>Totally got the official word today.. goin' to Annapolis in July!</p>
<p>I'm literally on cloud-nine right now..</p>
<p>Congrats! Your enthusiasm is great to be a part of! Best wishes for a continued great Naval career.</p>
<p>You will be a terrific addition to the Brigade of Midshipmen. They're lucky to have you.</p>