<p>Excellent..now just continue the trend a few more years and people will be turning down Harvard and Yale for Cornell on a regular basis.</p>
<p>It's not sad, it's glorious. The biggest drawback of Cornell for me when I was deciding whether or not to attend was that it was considered "less prestigious" than the other ivies. However, all of the other great things about cornell outweighed this one small negetive.</p>
<p>With the acceptance rate dropping, your Cornell degree will be "worth" much more in the long run. It's like buying bonds at a high interest rate and having the interest rate drop. Ok, obviously I have macroeconomics on the mind, but you must get my point.</p>
<p>But the sad thing is that in the past Cornell was a haven for those who didn't view education as a commodity, people who saw more value in education other than prestige.</p>
<p>good point sweetnsarah.........i think its kinda human nature to want the "challenge"........for example Case Western is an excellent school w/ amazing ppl.......but has a 65% acc rate....... i think it just creates a negative connotation w/ the school....... if you compare Case to BC, Bc's acc rate is somewhere around 30%....compared to 65....does that mean that BC is that much better than Case....i would doubt that.....but i guess its all perception</p>
<p>It's "HiImAnAlcoholic" not "alcoholic," first of all. Secondly, it's obviously not a serious name, but I guess only ivy leaguers can see through the thinly-veiled lack of seriousness, since we're uber-pretentious. Thank you for resorting to totally invalid points and losing track of your attempt at an argument/poorly-worded criticism. Anyways, Cornell is awesome, regardless. </p>
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<p>I don't see how a lower acceptance rate detracts from Cornell's inability to differentiate itself. We will still have the same amount of people pursuing "any study". It's still Cornell; the nature of the college/student body does not change because of an admissions statistic. The admissions committee will simply be able to be more selective, thereby improving the general quality of the student body. If differentiating itself from the ivy league means having a lower caliber of students, then it's not in Cornell's best interest to be "different". </p>
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<p>What do you mean by less fortunate? </p>
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I had to further prove my point through you trying to make yourself look smart by pointing out the huge fallacy in my logic
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<p>Haha, well, I wasn't trying to make myself look smart, but you certainly did a good job, thanks man.</p>
<p>You all must understand...a dropping acceptance rate doesn't lower the quality, size, or amount of opportunities available here. It's a benefit that had no cost. For that reason, I think it is a good thing.</p>
<p>"But the sad thing is that in the past Cornell was a haven for those who didn't view education as a commodity, people who saw more value in education other than prestige"</p>
<p>i think it still will be regardless of the admissions statistics. Admissions at Cornell is not solely numbers based. I'm certain we could have a freshmen class with an average SAT right next to the other ivy's. But, Cornell doesn't want this. They seek to admit people who have shown intense academic interest in the subject they're applying to at Cornell. This is why Cornell has the "lowest" average SAT score, it's not because they can't attract top students but rather admissions looks to admit those few who care more about education than the power of their SAT scores. I think that if you're truly passionate about something and want to pursuit it at an institution like Cornell, you'll have a shot regardless of the acceptance rate.</p>
<p>You didn't apologize for being immature and going on a rant regarding my user name, so I suppose you can deal with it. I also made a few points, perhaps you should look into it.</p>
<p>Again, I agree with gomestar. However, as the admit. rate continues to fall at such a rapid rate, I think that the uber-competitiveness will just make it another elitist school. I could be wrong, but that is what I think will happen.</p>
<p>This wasn't really a "debate." You originally stated that we were pretentious snobs, and many people therefore went against your obviously flawed statement. If you start an attack against a group of people, you can expect for the group of people to reciprocate in the same way.</p>
<p>why do u keep repeating this statement "There are a lot of people who are actually contributing to the debate in a progressive way." and there is no need to get emotional. u r the one who started this debate now you can't handle it becuase your points have no validity and is filled with trivial debased assumptions</p>
<p>in addition you keep call the ivy league elitist, when people use such terminology, it shows thier insecurities and higlights a defeatist attitude.</p>
<p>team - it might ... that's certainly an issue. I hope that it would attract a stronger student body of students who chose Cornell over the other ivies. IMO, the student body is Cornell's strongest asset, and I would love to see it continue to improve. We can only wait to see what really happens. </p>
<p>lets all take a chill pill, this is an opinion board.</p>
<p>How exactly is Cornell reverting to the elitism of the other ivies? They're not lowering their acceptance rates just for the sake of looking better for US News, or perhaps I read the article wrong.</p>
<p>It's probably for the best that everyone just drops this little "debate" on Cornell and elitism. Sweetnsarah, Cornell isn't reverting "to the elitism of the other ivies," but then again, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. :)</p>