Acceptance Rates for OOS Applicants

<p>Does anybody know where to find the OOS accptance rates for some of the more selective state schools--UMich, Texas, UNC-CH, UVA, Penn State,etc.?
USNWR doesn't break out the OOS/IS stat. Thanks.</p>

<p>I remember reading that UNC-CH has to take 88% from in-state, but I don't remember where I read that.</p>

<p>I would assume this info would be on the college's websites? Look under their admissions page. They usually have stats from the previous year's freshman class. Also under general info, it will usually give you the size of the student body and what % are in-state.</p>

<p>I'm aware that at UNC at least 82% of their student body must be North Carolinians, leaving only 18% for OOS students. What I'm looking for are acceptance rates of OOS students. Using UNC as the example, what percentage of the OOS applicant pool is accepted? How big is the OOS applicant pool from which the 18% of the incoming class is pulled? </p>

<p>Profiles list the makeup of the class--IS vs. OOS--but don't break out IS/OOS applicants. USNWR tables list UVa as having a 37% acceptance rate, but doesn't break out OOS applicants. UNC has a 38% rate, I believe. Texas is listed as having a 51% acceptance rate, but the top 10% ruling plays a huge part in their acceptances.</p>

<p>I'd think the info I'm looking for would be available because several of the publics are quite open about handling OOS applicants differently. UVA, UNC-CH, Texas come to mind. Michigan and Penn State say they don't treat OOS apps differently, but I've spoken to some 'nonbelievers' on the subject! </p>

<p>Just can't seem to find what I'm looking for and thought I'd see if anyone on this forum has experience in this regard.</p>

<p>I think you'll have to snoop around the individual websites -- not sure if there is one place that would have this info. For UNC-CH, the following quote if from their site:
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In recent years, approximately 19,000 students have applied for freshmen admission at Carolina. Almost 11,000 of those students were considered out-of-state for admission purposes. Approximately 2,100 those students received admission offers. The remaining 8,000 applicants were North Carolina residents. Usually about 4,600 of those students are admitted

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<p>for Cal, its 20% OOS, and 25% in-state,</p>

<p><a href="http://students.berkeley.edu/admissions/freshmen.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://students.berkeley.edu/admissions/freshmen.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>For Virginia, for 2006, it's 45% in-state and 32% out-of-state. Virginia residents make up 67% of each entering class. The link below provides the specific data as well as the historical numbers back to 1977:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.web.virginia.edu/IAAS/data_catalog/institutional/historical/admission/first_by_residency.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.web.virginia.edu/IAAS/data_catalog/institutional/historical/admission/first_by_residency.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I was just catching up on some reading. The Nov 10 WSJ has an article about state schools. It says that that UNC-CH raised its OOS admissions to 20% last year. Other state schools specifically mentioned as having raised OOS admissions were SUNY Binghamton and Univ of OK, although specific percentages for those schools were not given.</p>

<p>I am not sure about all of the schools, but I know that UVA is really tough to get into OOS. Kids in top 5%, 1450+, involved in sports, etc. did not get in from my son's school. Penn State is easier in this area anyway. You do not need the same kind of grades or scores although they must be good.</p>

<p>Also, and I don't know whether or not this applies to you, but some of these schools treat OOS children of alumni differently. I believe UVA puts alumni kids into the in-state pool. I think UNC-CH puts them into their own pool which is more selective than in-state but less selective than OOS.</p>

<p>Admissions rate for Penn State - University Park.....60 percent for in-state and 57 percent for out-of-state.
<a href="http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2006/09/09-21-06tdc/09-21-06dnews-02.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2006/09/09-21-06tdc/09-21-06dnews-02.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Yes, UVA alumni kids are considered in-state for admissions purposes.</p>

<p>Despite the Collegian article, PSU-University Park admissions says they threat both in and OOS equally. Perhaps the 60% in-state vs. 57% OOS is not statistically significant?</p>

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I think UNC-CH puts them into their own pool which is more selective than in-state but less selective than OOS.

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<p>No, I believe they changed this a couple years ago. I hear there isn't much advantage being an OOS child of an alum anymore (unless they are big donors of course ;)). What is different now is that they are not counting OOS athletes into the quota for OOS students, opening up spots for OOS unrecruited athletes.</p>

<p>You'll have to take into account on the OOS rates that a number of those students fill special institutional needs (athletes, musicians, internationals, diversity) for which they're recruited. Since the acceptance rates on the recruited OOS students are much higher than the overall reported rate, the acceptance rate on non-recruited OOS students must accordingly be well under the overall rate.</p>

<p>UNC's website does indicate that there is still some advantage. Of course, it might be very slight, as ophiolite says.</p>

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For alumni children from out of state, this factor plays a more significant role. These students will have a slight competitive edge over students from out of state who are not children of alumni

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<p>gadad makes a good point.</p>

<p>I know a girl who was rejected from UVA instate, but got in at UNC OOS on the basis of some drama program (where a tryout of some sort was apart of her application)</p>