@streetcred “See ya”
Promise?
Where do you get the notion that URM status is equivalent to a “free ride?” That is an argument for athletic admissions only, as there are no financial advantages to being from any ethnic group. The misinformation that so angers you keeps growing. Financial aid is rewarded based on the FAFSA and CSS profile ONLY.
You do realize every accepted student, regardless of race, is qualified to attend the institution that accepts them, right? The graduation data is available as well, if you care to do the research rather than rant. The ivies especially are not going to accept anyone less than “smart,” as failure of their students would reflect rather poorly on their acceptance decisions, don’t you think?
Oh, and my daughter is far from “perfect,” would never claim it nor desire to be so.
Wow! Some interesting stuff! But this is quite tame compared to what she said to me yesterday via private message.
streetcred May 19
Sorry your opinion is as slanted as the Hartford Moms — someone ought to look at family demographics, etc as to why the Asian culture excels as they do at Ivy’s etc…- they have a VERY strong sense of family and education is of utmost importance. So if y’all want to generalize so will I - How many "Asian drug dealers do you see? How many pregnant 15 year old Asians do you see? How many Asians live on Welfare and use the EBT cards in the grocery store to buy big fat juicy steaks? Not many in my neck of the woods - they are all in the leafy suburbs because they are educated and work very hard to achieve. They encourage education more than they encourage going out and becoming a baby mama. That can’t be said of some other minorities I"m afraid - THAT is IN FACT the truth that can’t be escaped. Oh and I have a black nephew so I’m not ‘throwing’ hate at blacks, i love my nephew no matter what color his skin is.
She’s a class act isn’t she?
Class act, sure, as long as you’re talking third class.
NewHavenCTMom had filled me in via private message regarding your private message, Duceandaquarter. At this point, you can report her and have her banned, I’m sure.<br>
Notice how her arguments are based on things “in my neck of the woods?” That limited (and limiting) view of society at large will hold back her and her kids. Probably a good thing for the rest of us!
Would it shock streetcred to learn that whites edge out blacks in percentage of the population on public assistance? Again, these statistics are available to anyone who seeks them out.
I’m having a difficult understanding how she can point a finger at anyone. Am I the only one trying to figure that out?
I spend more time on Bogleheads.org than here, especially since DS committed to his school for next year (I still hang around for general interest and the one remaining child who will be applying in a couple of years).
Anyway, I usually appreciate that there’s more latitude on this site than BH.org, but in this case, I’m not sure that any useful purpose is served by some of the posts. You’d think that a forum dedicated to education would more reliably show the hoped-for results of education.
(“she only got in because she’s <em>hot</em>”)
No, all of you with a hatred (really envy ) toward the Asian community should be banned -I AM NOT the one who targeted the Asian Community saying they feel entitled to Ivies. Some people can’t stand the truth - if an Asian child gets into an Ivy its because they deserve it… PLAIN AND SIMPLE you morons… … That point was obviously missed and arguing with you fools is not going to make you realize how dumb that notion is …
It seems like elite college admissions have gotten cutthroat to the point where anybody who gets accepted to an elite college or university is going to have rude, demeaning comments thrown at them. Hispanics and African Americans are benefitting from lower standards. Whites are benefitting from white privilege. Legacies are riding on the backs of their parents. Athletes are dumb jocks who have been favored their whole lives. The list goes on an on. It’s all dumb. Anybody who gets accepted to an elite university worked hard to get what they got, regardless of their race, gender, nationality, socioeconomic status, etc.
I think all of this would be less hostile if people stopped taking admissions decisions so personally. There is no definitive way to determine if one student is “better” or “worse” than another. We are all different with our own unique gifts and talents. Just because Sally gets accepted to University X and Suzie gets rejected, that doesn’t mean Sally is “better” than Suzie. It means that the admissions officers at University X think Sally is a better fit for the class that they are trying to build, nothing more. If rejected students and parents of rejected students would stop saying, “They accepted him and not me. They think he’s better than me,” and accepted students and parents of accepted students would stop saying, “I got in and he didn’t. I’m better than him,” I think a lot of this would be more pleasant for everyone.
We have never assumed anything about anyone in my family, except maybe being too sure that most people are kind and accepting of the differences in others. The juvenile name-calling and vitriol being spewed by streetcred has opened my eyes to the sad reality that I may live in a bubble.
When I move my D into Penn this August, I will look at everyone else with respect, as one of the best universities in the world deemed them worthy. Black, white, asian, purple or green, I never judge a book by it’s cover. All top tier institutions and people of high character have set the example and we are proud to be among them.
No one said they don’t deserve it, you are having some difficulties with reading comprehension. What we are saying is that each student who is accepted deserves it. Who are you to say that anyone doesn’t? The issue is when students feel that they are entitled. Everyone has worked hard, some harder than others without the benefit of fancy SAT prep classes, no fancy ECs that their parents paid for, no pricey college counselors to package them just right for the admissions counselors to see, no expensive prep schools…etc.
Many kids have accomplished great things without all of the benefits of a comfortable suburban life like our kids enjoy. They work, have very few resources, deal with many of societals ills(none of which are their fault ) all while working part time jobs, juggling school, ECs, community service AND doing amazing things. They command respect from those around them with their grace, poise & dignity. They don’t look for pity, they just want a solid education.
If things don’t go their way, they don’t sit and sulk about having things taken away. Why? Because they are accustomed to being told no, their lives are hard and oft times downright tragic…and they move past life’s disappointments. Maybe we can all learn from them. Grace, poise & dignity.
@streetcred
How are @Picktails and @NewHavenCTmom envious? Don’t you realize that their daughters were accepted to the schools in which they applied? I think you are mistaken. There is no reason for them to be envious. I’m sure the last thing they are feeling is envy.
@streetcred UH, I don’t hate Asians or envy them, because they can’t choose what race they’re born in. You seem to be the only one making generalizations now and keep playing the victim. Not everyone on this thread believe Asians feel entitled to get accepted to any college, and it is obvious that they work hard just like everyone else to get accepted, I mean being any race doesn’t give you a real advantage. Oh BTW if you want to see Asians behaving similar to those stereotypical roles you stated earlier, visit a town with a large Asian population like Los Angeles, and you will see teenagers of all races doing stupid things.
I agree, as the author of the HuffPost article.
Truth is some people only get in because of race. My school is filled with black, <em>cough</em> I mean “African Americans” that
- do not have leadership
- do not have athletics
- have decent grades but only because of easy classes
- have unbelievably low SAT/ACT scores (<29 or <2100)
Yet all of those kids get into ivy league schools. There was one kid that made a 25 on his ACT and got into columbia so I was like ■■■ no way, but then I checked Naviance and I’m like holy ■■■■.
I mean it is what it is. If those people were white or asian there’s no way they’d get in. There’s nothing I hate more than BS. I’m not going to say that they “deserve” to get into those schools.
Tanner, you are flat out racist. Shame on you.
It’s very difficult to know the intimacies of someone’s application. I always find it dangerous to make assumptions about what others are or are not doing in the admission process. By the way a 29 or a 2100 is not a low test score. Being on CC can skew your vision of academic success. This site seems so populated by high achieving families and students that we think a 35 or a 1550 is the standard test score of students who attend Elite universities. If you look at the common Data Set for Brown University which seems to be the middle ground Ivy League school it’s 25/75 is a 29 to 34. Taking into consideration that it’s Population of Black students is only 6 to 7 percent than there must be a decent amount of students who are not URM’s that have testing at or below a 29. By the way your high school must be an exceptional place since the admittance rate of black students to the Ivy League in general is only slightly over 10 percent of those who apply with many cross admittances.