Acceptances!

<p>Terre Haute has girls at other universities. There is even an all girls school there. Though personally I wouldn't put much weight on the ratio, I can definitely see where you are coming from.</p>

<p>Edit:
Just double checked that claim. The school I'm mentioning is about approximately 10 miles away.</p>

<p>Yeah, it's always nice to be accepted. Now we just have to wait for the finaid letters... in March... so far away! :(</p>

<p>we are in hopes for the eli lilly!
and there are plenty of girls and all want an engineer!</p>

<p>I'm personally concerned that Unity (The Gay Straight Alliance there) has been denied SGA status every year attempted since approximately 1996. I've been told that the campus itself has been becoming more tolerant but a lot of my friends think I'm crazy for considering Rose after finding out that information - and the fact even today it seems to be continuing.</p>

<p>Rose however has a great program for my academic interests and even the student in Unity I spoke with said they still are glad that they came to Rose. Its just a bit distressing to me because I want to be focused more on classes and not having to focus on dealing with intolerance in a large quantity as well.</p>

<p>you must have had a deeper convo than the rest of us?</p>

<p>I know the SGA is a little picky when it comes to making new clubs. For instance we have a Spirit club that goes out to most the sporting events decked out in red, yelling and screaming and such, and they've been trying to become a club for several years now also, but haven't been able to.</p>

<p>At Rose you won't find so much in the way of intolerance as you will just apathy because everyone's too busy trying to make it through and enjoy their time here. The same attitude applies to politics on campus. The majority of students don't have enough time to become involved in all the hoopla surrounding politics and activism.</p>

<p>Do you possibly know why the SGA is so picky?</p>

<p>I couldn't really say. I don't know very much about the whole process. I've never even been to a SGA meeting.</p>

<p>I did a little more research and I'm only posting it in case any other student is also interested in tolerance at Rose-Hulman. Now before anyone freaks out, the school is working to try to promote a more accepting community. The below is mostly to give you an idea of what you may be up against.</p>

<p>I found this piece a student wrote at the end of the school year in 2004.
Straight</a>, but not narrow... :: Hicks-Wright.net</p>

<p>Also here is a website hosted by Rose which specifically talks about tolerance in sexual identity, race, and gender:
Rose-Hulman</a> Safe Zone</p>

<p>Below are some quotes and explination about the GLBTQ experience from the above website:</p>

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[quote]

Because of the intolerance and lack of acceptance on campus, many GLBTQ students have considered leaving Rose-Hulman. Others have even left. Gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and questioning individuals bring a wide range of life experiences to the college community. Often GLBTQ individuals and/or individuals who have GLBTQ friends and family members look for an environment to find support, seek answers to questions, and build connections. Students who build support networks and find a sense of connection with a college are much more likely to succeed. For a GLBTQ student, having a space on campus where he or she can feel comfortable with self-expression is vital to both personal and academic success.</p>

<p>“Coming to Rose-Hulman has been a huge change for me, not just because I'm away from home, or because I have to make new friends, or even because I have harder classes, but because Rose-Hulman is far less accepting than my high school was. Sure, people said things such as ‘that's so gay’ or by using ‘fag,’ but nowhere near to the extent I've grown accustomed to here....I was out in high school, but I do not feel comfortable at all with being open about my sexual orientation here. Gay-bashing iconography shows up drawn everywhere...All of these things add up to an environment that feels hostile. I want to be myself for all of what that means, but I don't feel comfortable doing that at Rose.”</p>

<ul>
<li>Member of RHIT Class of 2007</li>
</ul>

<p>“Pirates here are apparently homophobes; one [Rose student] wrote, ‘Shiver me timbers, they hate gay people and love naked wenches.’”</p>

<ul>
<li>The Princeton Review
(My guess is that this was taken on talk like a pirate day)</li>
</ul>

<p>“If I had it to do all over again, I probably would not be here. I would not have even applied to Rose-Hulman. Often, I get the feeling that a lot of people would be happier had I never come here. Being here and staying here has given me two things. One, I have gotten a reasonably good education. Two, I've learned to live with a lot of pain. There is little doubt in my mind, that I could have gotten an equally good education elsewhere and been spared a lot of pain.”</p>

<ul>
<li>Gay student, writing in the Thorn, May 1995

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</li>
</ul>

<p>Personally I still am considering Rose-Hulman and think that it will be my first choice. Rose I've heard is an amazing place academically, and I am definitely drawn to it. Its nice however to know what to expect from the environment.</p>

<p>I was accepted today, and I got my admissions decision a little less then 3 weeks from all my materials being submitted.</p>

<p>I just got in today. It will be hard to choose between RPI, Rose-Hulman, Clarkson, RIT, and WPI. Anyone have any suggestions?</p>

<p>I'm in the same boat, although my choice has been narrowed down to RPI and Rose. I think right now I prefer Rose, but we'll see. Mostly because it seems much more student focused at Rose, and not so much about professor research.</p>

<p>Edit: Also, I don't know if you've visited RIT, but I did and I thought the campus was pretty much a drag. Plus my uncle's a prof there, and we can't have that now can we?! :)</p>

<p>In a nutshell what I've heard and seen from RIT is the social life is pretty much drugs, World of Warcraft, and studying. That's about it. When I visited it, they seemed to be trying to "buy" their applicants by entertaining visitors with acts rather then telling them more about the school and why they will be happier there academically.</p>

<p>I'm stuck between Rose and University of Illinois - Urbana Champaign personally.</p>

<p>I was offered a 15k per year scholarship to RPI that I am most likely going to turn down, because after my second visit to the school I was left very disappointed. While the academics are pretty good I felt like it was lacking in too many other areas. I'll just leave it at that unless you want me to go further.</p>

<p>Also from what I've read (But I definitely cannot back up or have experienced) WPI students tend to not be the happiest bunch and the campus city is not in the best area. Take that as you wish, but definitely visit and do your own research because I can't say for certain.</p>

<p>I'd appreciate your comments! I spoke with the EE dept. head, and the academics seemed up to par, but I honestly didn't get a real good impression of the student life, except for the dorm tour, in which I got to view a real live college student sitting in his boxers on his bed. :)</p>

<p>Below will be a LOT of negativity. I'm going to try to start off with the negatives and then go with the positives.</p>

<p>First I'll start off with the food. The food on campus is pretty bad. They have almost no variety, and even the off meal plan options that are still on campus are pretty terrible. I paid more then a McDonalds meal to get something worse then whats served at my school cafeteria. Its not that the meal plan food is really downright terrible, so much as the lack of variety makes all their options get old really fast. To find something better or different, you pretty much need to go off campus.</p>

<p>Next I'll do Campus security. I don't have much information on the actual security behind the scenes on Rensselaer, but I can say that multiple students that I talked to told me that things get REALLY sketchy after midnight. My student host admitted that if its past midnight he'll either try to stay with the friend they happened to be visiting, get ride, or pretty much run back. Otherwise, the area isn't too bad as far as security goes. Its mostly at night that theres an issue.</p>

<p>Drugs. Drugs at Rensselaer seemed to have more of a presence then some other colleges I visited. To make this section short, lets say I was with my student host at a student organization meeting and they started talking about acid trips and magic brownies. Normally I wouldn't find it too bizarre that someone or a small group mentions it, but it was the entire club talking about it. Also my host and his room mate admitted they very frequently abused alcohol while underage. Personally it made me uncomfortable that they would speak about these things so openly and involve me in the conversations when its something I would never condone for myself. I don't mind that other people do these kinds of things but when they started involving me in the conversations and descriptions with no knowledge of my background and feelings on the subject made me a little bit uncomfortable.</p>

<p>Class size. The class sizes at Rensselaer are pretty large from the experience I had. I will admit however, that I visited all freshmen classes. While the professors seem nice and approachable, they also seem rather detached from their students. I think that this is mostly because they are teaching so many kids. While I'm sure class sizes get smaller as they go, I found it a little bit unfortunate that only one professor knew my host's name. When I sat in these classes, the professors never noticed I was even there. The only time they noticed was when they asked me why I wasn't taking my test =P</p>

<p>Labs. The labs seemed to be taught by two or three grad students - at least when I was there. I think the host mentioned that sometimes the professor gave them lab time to work on their homework assignments for the course.</p>

<p>Recitation. The Recitation period was taught by a TA, and from the one I at least visited he was mostly reading from the book and doing problems on the board. He'd ask what problems people had problems with and go from there. </p>

<p>Clubs. Clubs at Rensselaer seem pretty cool. The kids seemed very friendly, approachable, and nice. The group I met were very cool to hang around and it was one of my favorite parts of the trip. I really enjoyed hanging around them... when they weren't gabbing about drugs. Rensselaer also has a very large selection of clubs.</p>

<p>Campus. Campus during the day was very nice. It seemed easy to navigate and the campus buildings look pretty nice in my opinion. I tend to be more of a fan of concrete grey then grass green though =P</p>

<p>Academics: The academics seemed pretty good. Most of the professors studied at really good schools so they tend to be pretty well educated. Can't really say more because I didn't stay long enough to develop a further opinion then they are as advertised when they say that they do offer a good education from what I was able to see. Though I'll be honest and say out of all the numerous classes I visited, I only ever saw two students taking notes on their laptop and several not paying attention in class. That at least disturbed me a little that so many were slacking off.</p>

<p>To sum it up:</p>

<p>Spare Time. When students here seem to have free time, they normally are on the computers playing games. EVERYONE here seems to do it. I'll admit myself, I play more games then I most likely should. However I was kind of surprised the even the girls I would stereotypically assume are not into video games were more hardcore into it then I was. At the time I know they were talking a lot about portal and team fortress 2. Also, this sometimes comes at a cost. This is definitely a group of college kids who know what 4chan is. If you know what 4chan is, you will definitely know what I'm talking about. To sum up what 4chan is in case you don't, I'll put it as a student explained to another student. "4chan is where the <explicits> of the internet go to hang out." The students are nice and everything, but they can be very schadenfreudic at times. They also can tend to be kind of cliquey.</explicits></p>

<p>If your looking for anything more specific or explained further, let me know. I remember one of my host's roommates was an electrical engineer and I remember him say he does approximately 20-25 hours of studying and homework in a week.</p>

<p>It is a bit more negativity than I picked up, but I was only there on the open house.. I do think I still favor Rose, and assuming I get somewhat decent Merit aid, I think I'll go there... its sounding better and better all the time.</p>

<p>i'm planning to take a trip to terre haute to visit rose in a month, but i was wondering beforehand what the city and campus is like. also, how many people commute as opposed to live on campus? is it a big commuter school?</p>

<p>you should definitely visit and see what you think, but that was my experience personally. I'm hoping to see Rose some time in December.</p>

<p>Also Rose is not a commuter campus. They have a total of 14 part time students.</p>

<p>I can't say too much else about what Rose is like because I haven't been there yet.</p>

<p>Gebrselassie,
The city of Terre Haute is not the greatest place in the world, but it has everything you need, tons of restaurants, a mall, a nearby Wal-mart, hotels, etc...but if you drive through it, there's a lot of old houses and there's a paper mill over by the river that you can sometimes smell (luckily Rose isn't really in Terre Haute proper)</p>

<p>The Rose campus is pretty compact, with lots of green stuff (in summer) and some ponds. It's isolated from Terre Haute (about a 5 minute drive to get downtown) by woods on all sides, so there's not really any issues with people just wandering on campus.</p>

<p>If you have any specific questions, I'd be glad to help.</p>

<p>I've heard one of the things you should do at Rose at least once before you graduate is go watch the locals in the Walmart at 4am =P</p>