<p>I was accepted to Wharton (internal dual degree). I was originally in the College.</p>
<p>I started this forum to answer questions of students who are also interested in applying for an internal transfer or an internal dual degree with Wharton from CAS. CC has helped me so much over the last few years and this is my way of giving back to such a great community.</p>
<p>Fire away with your questions! I will try to answer them all.</p>
<p>Hi julianandmort,</p>
<p>Can you please expand on what courses you took, your GPA, ECs (?). </p>
<p>Any advise on high school courses that are helpful ?</p>
<p>TIA</p>
<p>TIA: Courses are not hugely important. The one thing you must consider is that now, the app process looks at course difficulty. This does not mean you should kill yourself with just math and science courses (which may not be so kind to your GPA) but you should have a few quantitative classes, since those are almost always rated higher in difficulty and adcoms often think that way.</p>
<p>GPA-Huge range nowadays since the app is holistic. Ideal range is 3.7-3.8. Lower than that makes you less competitive, and higher than that I’ve heard they postpone you to sophomore fall applications since they figure you’ll still have a high GPA. Numbers don’t lie-Have many friends with 3.7-3.89 who got in, equally good friends with 3.9+ did not. But 4.0s are accepted. This is all purely observational.</p>
<p>ECs-Get involved in something you like. Doesn’t have to be particular. </p>
<p>High school courses aren’t too important, but having ap credit for calc and bio, chem, and phys is helpful. with BC calc credit you can take math 114 instead of 104, which is a better choice.</p>
<p>best and feel free to ask anything else!</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Is the internal transfer or the internal dual degree harder to be accepted into than the other? What do you think really helps to get in? Do the majority get in?</p>
<p>Also, can people with dual degrees finish within 4 years, or do you think it usually takes a little longer?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>P2Pipos-Good questions.</p>
<p>First-Both dual and internal transfer are considered within the same pool. Thus, neither is harder, per se, when compared. However, you should consider the fact that a compelling story can often be made with dual degree as opposed to transfer. If you came to Penn with the intention of plainly transferring to Wharton WITHOUT TRYING ANY COURSES AT OTHER SCHOOLS your transfer essay will reflect that…adcoms will sniff that out pretty easily. Whereas, saying you had an initial interest BUT then picked up another interest in business after coming to Penn is much more believable. Believing that your academic interests somehow changed completely within a mere one year at Penn is harder to demonstrate.</p>
<p>Yes, dual can be done in 4 years. Keep in mind, however, that this entails plenty of double and possibly triple counting and has to be done carefully. Also plan to take 6 classes a semester, which not everyone can handle.</p>
<p>The majority certainly don’t get in. It’s gotten a lot harder this year especially because for the last 2 years, people have been judged holistically instead of just gpa-wise, so now you have to have a solid gpa, plus great ECs, essays, and a convincing story to present. This has also led to a lower percentage acceptance by the sheer increase in the internal transfer and dual degree pool as a huge number of Cas and SEAS students want to add on a Wharton degree.</p>
<p>which would you say is harder: to get into Wharton directly for undergrad or to transfer internally?</p>
<p>Glad to see you opted for the dual-degree rather than just an internal transfer. One of Penn’s greatest assets that sets it apart from other selective schools.</p>
<p>Jnix88: this isn’t my thread, and I don’t wish to hijack, but I always say if you are most interested in Wharton it is much better to apply straight-away while you’re in high school rather than wait.</p>
<p>Jnix: Basically, here’s what I’d say. If you’re at all interested in something in a non-Wharton school at Penn, and I mean truly interested,
consider applying to CAS/SEAS/Nursing. If you ONLY want Wharton and that’s all you care about Penn, please don’t waste a year fretting
and agonizing as to whether you’ll be able to get in via internal transfer or dual degree, then just apply to Wharton out of high school.</p>
<p>Chi-Town: Thanks for your kind words. You raise a great point-Penn’s dual degree is a unique feature amidst the best institutions, including the rest of the Ivy League.</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I’m currently a freshman at Penn (in the college). I’m not 100% sure whether i will do the dual degree or transfer, but i just want to get some info first and keep my options open.
(1 )Do we need any recommendation letters in order to apply dual degree/ internal transfer? </p>
<p>(2) And which component of the application (ECs, essays, GPAs…) is most important?</p>
<p>(3) What kind of ECs will be helpful? Do i have to have a lot and many impressing ones? As a freshman here at Penn, I’m kind of overwhelmed by the huge number of student organizations here.</p>
<p>(4) I’m an international student. Will this put me on disadvantage or advantage?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>My questions are (and thanks for doing this):