acceptee question about ILR

Colleges and Universities A-Z Cornell University
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<p>so does any fellow ILRies have this issue: having ppl tell u that ILR is easier college to get into compared to the other Cornell colleges because it is a state college. </p>

<p>Is it true?
How do my fellow ILRies feel about this topic ?(and any other opinions are welcomed)</p>

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<p>why does it matter, you got in</p>

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<p>lol, that is true, but sometimes its like a let down when ppl’s faces just kind of change when they hear its a state college</p>

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<p>I only had one jacka*s give me the “But isn’t that one of the state schools? blah blah blah spiel” when I told them I was majoring in ILR at Cornell and I took the time to kindly explain the contract college system to them and refer them to the wikipedia page on the topic along with the enrollment statistics at dbp.cornell.edu to quelch any doubts that I was going to the “real” or, even more ridiculous, “Ivy-part” of Cornell. Ironically enough, this person had earlier expressed to me a desire to apply to Cornell in the RD round, to a major only offered at one of Cornell’s contract units. LULZ</p>

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<p>But it’s not a state college. It is a private college contracted with the state of New York to provide research and education in an area of study the state deems necessary to its well-being.</p>

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<p>I, for one, blame ANN COULTER.</p>

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<p>We don’t get a lot of flack for being from a contract college, and I believe the same is true for HumEc and CALS. I think the contract vs. endowed issue is much more of an issue for alums, especially those who attended Cornell before state funding to the contract colleges dropped so precipitously – these days, less than 18% of ILR’s operating budget comes from New York State. ILR has not strongly identified with New York State since the 1970s, when state funding first dipped under 50%; we even dropped the “New York State School of…” in publications and official correspondence during that time. Contract vs. endowed is no longer a huge issue on campus or source of ridicule: discussion of it only really comes up when cable news talking heads pick fights with each other.</p>

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<p>i c. This is good feedback. Next time, I’ll take my sweet time to explain to people what this state college thing is</p>

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<p>Hm, I’m not an ILRer, I’m going into CAS, however, I’ve had similar situations with people telling me that Cornell is the “easiest Ivy to get into” because of it’s “high acceptance rate.” </p>

<p>Honestly, that kind of nonsense just comes from ignorant people who don’t understand Cornell’s design. It appears that a bunch of arses out there just look at statistics without understanding them and make broad generalizations. </p>

<p>Sometimes it’s worth it to set them straight, but other times, if some douc*e-nozzle wants to undercut the quality of a Cornell education based upon inaccurate stereotypes, then the hell with 'em.</p>

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<p>I agree with u, wisdom86.
And the funny thing is i don’t see those kids getting acceptance in Cornell or any “better college”</p>

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<p>lol yea, you’re right. </p>

<p>I have a few friends who are obsessed with rank and “prestige” so they applied to all the ivies plus other prestigious institutions… just for the face value of a name, without actually knowing much or anything about the school… That REALLY ****es me off. </p>

<p>Who cares about numbers? We applied, we got in, we belong. End.</p>

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So let’s be honest here. No, it does’t matter and here’s why:

  1. ILR has a huge focus on HR and Unions, but it also has great classes in business management, negotiation and the law.
  2. A lot of employers look at the ILR school as a business school. It's a great gateway to get into financial services or venture capitalism
  3. I did better in my non-ILR classes than ILR classes because they were far easier (in my opinion) than the "non-ivy" classes.
  4. I had the opportunity to be a full-fledged member of the campus, be involved in leadership opportunities across the campus and get a great education both in classes and out of them.
  5. Anyone who thinks that a partially state-funded school is a lesser education is full of nonsense. I'm proud I went to Cornell and had the opportunity to experience the best possible education I could have possibly had.

If you’re worried about state school vs “non-ivy” don’t come to Cornell. You have nothing to give the community if you think you’re inherently better than your peers. The thing that makes Cornell great is that any person can find education in any field they want. Part of that is learning from your experiences and those of your peers.

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@civomorth ILR had a lower acceptance rate than Cornell as a whole, so I’m not sure where that comes from…

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Don’t know if you’re “in-state”, but back in my day NY kids would purposely choose the contract colleges because they could get all the benefits of an Ivy education for the SUNY price. My tuition was around $3,000 (ILR) while my friend in Engineering was paying $20,000.

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I think applying to a contract college, ILR, definitely hurt my chances of admission because of its affiliation with SUNY–they’re incentivised to let in a large diversity pool in tandem with upstate NY public school kids. Not great odds for a nerdy white girl from out of state.

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ILR is NOT affiliated with SUNY in any way, shape, or form. It is a state-endowed school that is part of a private university, which means that the criteria is different from that of a public school. While it may be NY-resident heavy, this is no different from the rest of Cornell.

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Right ILR is not a SUNY. People find it confusing. It receives funding from SUNY but thankfully is not controlled by SUNY. So ILR is spared the problems (corruption, strangulation by the legislation, and impact of the corrupt Research Foundation) of SUNY.