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<p>Those Northeasterners can continue to avoid Southerners and experience the “horror” in their own backyards:</p>
<p><a href=“http://static.psbin.com/q/g/ymuctw7iu8hmb7/TeamPages-Rifle.pdf[/url]”>http://static.psbin.com/q/g/ymuctw7iu8hmb7/TeamPages-Rifle.pdf</a></p>
<p>It may also come as a shock to those Northeasterners that Harvard Business School publishes case studies on NASCAR:</p>
<p>[DuPont-NASCAR</a> Marketing - Harvard Business Review](<a href=“http://hbr.org/product/dupont-nascar-marketing/an/KEL166-PDF-ENG]DuPont-NASCAR”>DuPont-NASCAR Marketing)</p>
<p>and that Harvard students actually take jobs with NASCAR:</p>
<p>[NASCAR.COM</a> - Twenty-three selected as diversity program interns - Jun 2, 2010](<a href=“http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/headlines/official/06/01/diversity.internships/index.html]NASCAR.COM”>http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/headlines/official/06/01/diversity.internships/index.html)</p>
<p>Bay - there is a significant difference between competitive sharpshooting and owning a gun rack in your car.</p>
<p>That isnt a good argument at all</p>
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<p>Really? Check out the roster and tell me that most of these MIT students never hunted or owned a gun rack:</p>
<p>[MIT</a> Intercollegiate Athletics](<a href=“http://mitathletics.com/sports/c-rifle/2009-10/roster]MIT”>http://mitathletics.com/sports/c-rifle/2009-10/roster)</p>
<p>How do you think they developed their interest in shooting?</p>
<p>Bay - ive done sharpshooting before. I think its a great skill sport. but i severely dislike civilians owning guns (handguns primarily), especially concealed weapons</p>
<p>me aside, im sure MIT has SOME people who like guns. You are focusing on about 10 people. What about the rest of their student body?</p>
<p>I am a racist and openly stated this fact on a few of my college admissions essays. Surprisingly, I was rejected from the places where I omitted my blatant racist beliefs and admitted to the places where I wrote about my racism. Go figure. </p>
<p>The word racist is not a synonym for “evil”. </p>
<p>For the record, I would consider myself an intellectual racist in the line of James Watson, Charles Murray, Steve Pinker, William Shockley, etc. Meaning, I acknowledge racial differences in intelligence and my examination of the evidence leads me to conclude that these differences stem from genetic factors related to race. Therefore these differences (or as liberals like to say, “gaps”) cannot be fixed through environmental stimulation. They are immutable in the present state and will only change with a well-implemented eugenics programme or with a breakthrough in genetic engineering. </p>
<p>Perhaps openly suggesting racist beliefs in a reasonable manner can help with college admissions by offering the college intellectual diversity. There are probably thousands of applicants who write essays on your average PC liberal experience. There are very few students who dare to write about their racist views out of fear of being, “Watsoned”, “Summered”, or the latest, “Graced”. Writing about a taboo topic such as “race and intelligence” demonstrates courage and a willingness to think independently, which perhaps, are characteristics that elite colleges favor. </p>
<p>I highly doubt that writing like a KKK member would do anyone any good at all. Please be reasonable.</p>
<p>I suspect someone who is a “genuine” conservative, active member of their church youth group, involved in the high school gun club or an anti abortion group might actually have an advantage especially at smaller LAC’s. These schools value diversity and conservatives are in short supply. I was recently involved with the young Dems and young Republicans at a top 3 LAC - only problem, we couldn’t find any young Republicans. But I suspect anyone who is authentically involved in conservative causes would be taken very seriously in the application process. However slapping a Dale Earnhart sticker on your application might not be what they’re looking for</p>
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<p>Besides the “about 10 people” at MIT who like guns, presumably the administration must support gun usage as well. Otherwise I can’t imagine why they would fund a competitive riflery team out of everyone’s tuition, can you?</p>
<p>Apparently, Harvard and Yale used to have riflery teams:</p>
<p>[Riflery</a> Faces MIT In Second Match | The Harvard Crimson](<a href=“http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1976/11/19/riflery-faces-mit-in-second-match/]Riflery”>Riflery Faces MIT In Second Match | Sports | The Harvard Crimson)</p>
<p>Chances + statistics = balongna 
Let your son apply. If he’s got good grades, and lots of extra-curriculars (looks like he does), there should be no problem.
You can’t worry about all these nit-picky statistics 
I’m very liberal, but at the end of the day, I’m all about progress.
I give credit where credit is due, and if your son deserves it, by all means, he should be admitted :]</p>
<p>For almost all applicants, income/wealth determines access and level of access, not political, ethnic or religious persuasion.</p>
<p>The problem with some of these posts is not only that the assumptions the posters/people at schools involved hold are deeply offensive, condescending, and simply wrong, but that it doesn’t actually matter whether the student will be hated at X school for prompting them or even for fitting into them.</p>
<p>All that matters is that the admissions committee does not have a strong bias against them. I can only see this being the case in extreme situations – Reed, Evergreen, Bard, Wesleyan, maybe even Carleton, etc., where there is a legitimate fit and philosophy issue. In almost all other cases the admissions committee members do not have severe brain defects and therefore realize that conservatives add needed diversity and reinforce the campus’ intellectual forum. I doubt that there is any bias; I have never encountered this from the students at Princeton (and there are people of all stripes, so the adcoms must not have suffered from bias either).</p>
<p>On the other hand, consider these two statements – </p>
<p>“I am a KKK member.”</p>
<p>“I am against abortion.”</p>
<p>The first I’m arbitrarily lumping as conservative (and, although an extreme social conservative, I feel it fits in best with that label). So, statement one goes against a “good” that the adcoms feel the college adopts, i.e. no racism. Statement two may be at odds with personal opinions or against an assigned “good” of “choice of body,” but is actually in line with the greater “good” of “respecting life and others” or whatever. Thus, it is not repulsive but rather a different way of looking at things, whereas one would be hard-pressed to come up with a coherent position supporting KKK membership.</p>
<p>Hey, be my guest and write your Yale essay on how proud you were when you killed your first deer. If you don’t like hearing that adcoms in the Northeast establishment will think it’s a horror story, then ignore this warning.</p>
<p>You could probably get away with a NASCAR essay if you compared the drivers to famous ancient Roman charioteers.</p>
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<p>Why do you think Yale adcoms think deer hunting is a “horror story?” I am sincerely interested in getting to the bottom of their bias. Is it simply the killing of an animal that offends them? I assume that the majority of them are meat-eaters. Is it the fact that the applicant has shot a firearm? I’d be surprised if that fact would eliminate an applicant from consideration.</p>
<p>It’s about culture. Yale adcoms are not likely to be part of hunting culture. To the extent they are from more or less well-off, probably liberal families in the Northeast, they most likely don’t have guns at home. They will have grown up in a culture that looks down on hunting as a “blood sport,” and they will think of hunters as violent people.</p>
<p>You might think these views are absurd and should be changed. I’m just saying that it’s probably not good strategy to challenge them in your college admission essay.</p>
<p>One of the common admissions advice books (I think it was Michele Hernandez but don’t swear to it) chose a hunting essay as one of its favorite essays that year.</p>
<p>I suppose any essay could be good. But I’d be curious to know if that essay was written by a white male from the South. I wouldn’t advise it.</p>
<p>It was a white male from the south.</p>
<p>I agree with you, though. What would be the point of pushing that envelope?</p>
<p>As I think about this some more, it might work if the essay was about how killing the deer would help feed your impoverished family.</p>
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<p>Absolutely. There are plenty of angles a hunter could take to present an interesting essay. Hunter license fees are the largest source of funding for wildlife conservation. Deer hunting is often a major part of wildlife management programs. Venison is a very nutritious food source. Wild animals used for food have likely lived natural, more fulfilling lives than those that are penned and force fed in misery.</p>
<p>It is disheartening that Yale adcoms might not have considered these positive aspects to a way of life that has existed since the beginning of human life.</p>
<p>Just don’t write about how much fun it was killing the deer.</p>
<p>I grew up in the South, so I “get” having guns around, as well as hunting (although I was never interested in hunting at all, we had guns, and occasionally shot them). But lots of people in the Northeast don’t get either of these at all. That’s just a fact.</p>