<p>What is the lowest possible yet competitive stats for your application?
Another user had many AP's but a 'bad' GPA, eventhough it was 4.23 or something and he had a '35%' chance.</p>
<p>There really isn't an answer to that question. You can have an AMAZING essay and SAT, and your gpa could theoretically be terrible.THe idea is that things balance each other out.</p>
<p>Thanks
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<p>I believe SteslaS was referring to my comment on a particular chance thread. Now, while this student had an impressive GPA (I don't know who said it's 'bad'...I think it's very good) the SAT score wasn't as good AND this person is from out-of-state, so it's really hard to say. I mean, I had a friend who had 3.9 uw 4.2ish weighted GPA, took many AP classes (got all 5s), editor of yearbook, varsity sport, 2270 SATs, IN-STATE, and was rejected. That's not to scare you. I know plenty of people with much lower stats who got in. That's to say how unpredictable the admissions process can be. The "35%" I gave was a very rough estimate. It's really hard to say.</p>
<p>Lowest possible stats? The lowest GPA I've seen someone get into Berkeley with (assuming no special circumstances) is around 3.5 uw. Some people's SAT scores barely broke 2000 but I'm sure many people with 1800 - 1900 range get in. Hope that gives you an idea of the "lowest possible" stats for admission. Obviously other factors like essays and ECs matter a lot and this is not to say that someone with a 1790 can't get into Berkeley.</p>
<p>I know some students were accepted with SATs in the 1000s (meaning less than 1100 on old SAT), both into Berkeley and UCLA.</p>
<p>I think we are talking about the new SATs. So that would be what...1500s? Yeah I have heard those students but they are really rare and not whom I would consider "competitive."</p>
<p>Ok, I'm going to chime in here. A high school acquaintance of my DD ( Berkeley 08) got accepted with a 3.5 uw GPA and (old school) SAT's in the 1250 range. How you ask. Well her mother confided in me that she wrote in her essay about all of her "hormonal/endocronlogy" medical issues, which- of course- caused her to do so poorly in all of her classes and all of her SAT tests. The admission dept. sent them an seperate sheet to have her doctors confirm all of these medical issues, and she got accepted as a "disability" acceptee. Surprisingly, she is now experiencing perfect health. I really feel like this family scammed the system. I don't know how they can go around bragging that their kid is at Cal with a straight face.</p>
<p>Are you sure they "scammed" the system? Maybe she was sick but she is better now? What reasons do you have to believe that her doctor's files were falsified besides the fact that she appears to be in good health?</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback.</p>
<p>Berkeley's average sat scores go as follows...
cr: 665
m: 690
w: 670
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<p>gpa: 4.17</p>
<p>so people just "cracking 2000," as someone previously said, are actually average for a berkely 2006 student. Other interesting stats are...</p>
<p>cr: 700-800/58.6% accepted
m:700-800/47.4% accepted
w: 700-800/59.5% accepted</p>
<p>people with individual scores of 600-690 had around a 30% shot of being accepted out of the applicant pool. as far as gpa goes 58% accepted had a 4.00 and above, and 11.6% accpeted had a 3.7-3.99 gpa. This is all from the "Introducing tht University of California" handbook 2007-2008. </p>
<p>i don't know if this helps you at all. i would think a 1950-2050 and a 3.8-4.0 gpa with solid essays and great ec would give you a semi-decent shot. For me, i have a 3.75 gpa and a 2030 on the SAT. so...it is pretty much a long shot. anything less than that would put you at a super long shot. oh yeah, uc berkeley eccpetance rate is 23.6% out of 41,716 applicants. if your an ELC student you have a 60% shot of getting in out of the total applicant pool.</p>
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as far as gpa goes 58% accepted had a 4.00 and above, and 11.6% accpeted had a 3.7-3.99 gpa.
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<p>A minor correction: what this really means is that of those who applied and had a 4.0+, 58% of them were accepted. Of those applicants who had a 3.7 - 3.99 and applied, 11.6% were accepted. By the way, I believe this is UCGPA.</p>
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Berkeley's average.......
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<p>That's not really true. The average GPA (of the students that were accepted) was a 4.5 at my school (for the 2006 fall term). Also, at another high school the students' average GPA was a 4.4. So I think that 4.17 is the bare minimum. :/</p>
<p>I think that 4.17 is the average.</p>
<p>Comparision of UC Schools with averages-
<a href="http://www.ophs.opusd.k12.ca.us/uc_admissions_statistics.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.ophs.opusd.k12.ca.us/uc_admissions_statistics.htm</a></p>
<p>that 4.17 is propably uc and it is in their handbook and on multiple sponsored uc websites. a 4.5 uc gpa is pretty friggin hard to get. i doubt that was the average at your school (uc gpa) and yeah, it was what percentage of those who had a 4.00 and above that got in. not the total applicant pool. so if you got a 4.00, you have around a 50% shot. it is tough to get in as it should be.</p>
<p>babyblue dosn't know what it is talking about. :/ sorry. a 4.17 is the average uc gpa.</p>
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babyblue dosn't know what it is talking about. :/ sorry. a 4.17 is the average uc gpa.
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<p>So the statistics my college counselor showed me lied? Ok then. :/</p>
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a 4.5 uc gpa is pretty friggin hard to get.
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<p>Nope, not really. If you're in all IB or AP classes, the highest weighted GPA you can get is a 4.8.</p>
<p>hey, let me ask you this...how many students in all of america's high schools maintain a 4.5 uc gpa? i'll bet it is safe to bet that less than 1% of all students have that high of a uc gpa. therefore, i think it is safe to say a 4.5 is "pretty friggin hard" to maintain. and yes, either your counsler is a liar or you wern't able to properly interpret her "statistics." but it's ok, i couldn't interpret the uc's statistics, so were in the same boat. but you are just wrong. :/</p>
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The average GPA (of the students that were accepted) was a 4.5 at my school (for the 2006 fall term).
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<p>I think that's the weighted GPA and not the UC GPA. Some schools weigh GPA pretty ridiculously, in my opinion.</p>
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Nope, not really. If you're in all IB or AP classes, the highest weighted GPA you can get is a 4.8.
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<p>But keep in mind we are talking about UC GPA, not weighted GPA. UC GPA is what the UCs look at. Weighted GPA is not as reliable; I've seen people claim they have 5.6 weighted or 6.37 weighted. Some GPAs are weighted differently by different schools.</p>
<p>Under the UC GPA calculations, no more than 8 semesters of AP classes can be counted towards boosting your GPA. So, if you took 10 semesters, 8 semesters will be weighted, and 2 semesters won't. This means that if a student took 6 classes (pretty average) during his sophomore/junior year, had all AP classes, and got all As, the highest UC GPA he could get is a 4.33.</p>
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This means that if a student took 6 classes (pretty average) during his sophomore/junior year, had all AP classes, and got all As, the highest UC GPA he could get is a 4.33.
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<p>Oh, I wasn't talking about the UC GPA. I was talking about the high school GPA at my school.</p>