Advise me on where to spend my year abroad in the U.S.

I’m currently in the process of looking into universities to attend for my year abroad in the U.S. I’m an American History student at a top university in the U.K. and our university has exchange links with about forty universities in the U.S., so I am a little overwhelmed about making this important and costly (!) decision. I was hoping you would be able to provide me with some more guidance.

I know as an American History student I should look into studying on the East Coast which is of more historical significance than other states but I am planning on writing my dissertation, which we are supposed to research on our year abroad, about U.S. foreign policy, so studying in a specific region isn’t really necessary for me (e.g. it would be better for someone planning on writing their dissertation on the American Revolution to attend a university in the northeast). Most of my peers want to go to California, but this doesn’t interest me hugely and it is very expensive. I would like to spend my year abroad in “fly over country” because studying somewhere like California or the East Coast would just be like a long holiday in my view. To get to grips with American culture, I feel I should study in the Midwest/South. I’ve always had a romantic notion of the Midwest and parts of the South as being the quintessential regions of the U.S. so studying abroad there would be fantastic. However, I was wondering if you think a foreign student would get bored studying for a year in somewhere like Kansas?

I love the idea of studying in a college town and really want to avoid a big city environment. In my first year at university here in the U.K. I only ventured off campus about five times. I am easily entertained and would prefer hanging out with some friends and having a BBQ by the lake than going to the hottest new club downtown, so I think college towns appeal to me in that respect. A lot of my peers want to go travelling around the country when on their year abroad but I would be content saving travelling for the end of the academic year and just travelling locally for the most part.

I’m an atheist and would automatically rule out overly religious universities. From what I gather, Note Dame is the only religious university on the list and I really liked the look of ND but being in a religious environment would make me uncomfortable. I want to avoid universities that are cliquey and I guess the cliquey universities are the liberal arts colleges. Moreover, I wish to avoid private universities as they will cost too much on my budget.

Politically speaking, I am a centrist so going to a heavily Republican-dominated university would be a no-go for me. I am not really far-left and would like to avoid universities with hippie/Bohemian student bodies.

Reputation: not too important as my home university’s reputation is more important and is respectable. As long as the university is considered average minimum then it’s fine.

Frats: I hate the whole idea of frats and a place not dominated by the frat scene would be ideal. I don’t mind a university with frats but not one where the social scene is ran by frats!

I can’t really think of anything else to help you advise me where to go so I will leave you with the list below. Thanks!

University of Alaska, Anchorage, AK

University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

Binghamton University, Vestal, NY

University of California, All Campuses (exc. Merced and San Francisco)

University of Colorado, Boulder, CO

Florida International University, Miami, FL

Framingham State University, Framingham, MA

George Mason University, Fairfax, VA

Goucher College, Towson, MD

University of Hawaii, Manoa, HI

Hobart & William Smith Colleges, Geneva, NY

University of Illinois, Urbana, IL

University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS

Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, LA

University of Maine, Orono, ME

University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA

Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT

University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN

University of Mississippi, Oxford

University of Missouri, Columbia or St. Louis, MO

University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM

University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC

University of Notre Dame, South Bend, IN

Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA

University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK

University of Oregon, Eugene, OR

SUNY Plattsburgh, Plattsburgh, NY

University of Redlands, Redlands, CA

Reed College, Portland, OR

University of Rhode Island, Kingston, RI

University of Richmond, Richmond, VA

Roanoke College, Salem, VA

Rutgers SUNJ, New Brunswick, NJ

San Francisco State University, San Francisco, CA

Stetson University, DeLand, FL

St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN

Temple University, Philadelphia, PA

Tulane University, New Orleans, LA

University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT

Westminster College, Fulton, MO

At the moment my list is roughly (in no order):
— University of Missouri, Columbia, MO

— University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS

— University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK

— Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, LA

— U of Mississippi, Oxford, MS

Thoughts on current list too?

Is there a reason that UNC Chapel Hill isn’t on your list? Academically, it’s very very strong, Chapel Hill has always been considered an amazing college town, it’s in the South which you like, and the school is generally liberal, but not known to be uber-liberal. About 16-20% of the school is involved in Greek life, and while it’s important, I wouldn’t say that it dominates social life at the school.

I think your tentative choices are fine because they will each in their own way give you the American experience you are seeking. One thing you should be aware of, though, is that since they are all state schools, the national representation in the student bodies would be limited.

For a contrarian perspective, H & WS merits consideration for a few reasons:

  1. They have a strong political science program.
  2. You will only be there for a year. If it is cliquey, this will barely affect you. I do not think the school would be objectionally cliquey in any event.
  3. The school's area can, with some stretch of the imagination, be considered an eastern version of Middle America. Historically, the region has been a center for women's suffrage, utopianism and spiritualism. The nearby, transversal Erie Canal once united the nation.
  4. The Finger Lakes region is naturally beautiful.

Irrespective of what I just wrote, which may appear to be in exclusive advocacy of H & WS, I think you have some great options, with a year in Geneva just being one of them.

if you want to write about foreign policy, rather than do an ethnographic study, why would you want to be somewhere other than near DC?

In which case, GMU or Goucher or Richmond.

Agree with @PurpleTitan. You can go directly to the sources in DC.

Yes, with UNC on the list I am surprised you don’t have that–one of the best colleges on the list. I also think Univ of Colorado at Boulder would fit your requirements. It is strange to me you have so many requirements that aren’t academic. I myself would not like to spend a year in KS or Oklahoma. But Lawrence is a college town I think LSU is a bad pick compared to the schools on offer A non religious girl l I know started at Notre Dame last year. I really think it is more a typical college first and foremost, and a very good one. Your view of LAC, I think of it more as student really knowing and interacting with each other more intimately than your ugly stereotype but I could understand wanting a large college, but you are just not going to have the same level of interaction with your professors. You just started at a university in UK and have to write a thesis already? I think you are going to find the general scholarship at some of these uni’s disappointing unless you are really entrenched in a good department. It is very strange that I have seen other UK students with this same idea of yours midwest college town and studying history, so familiar. I too mystified why you wouldn’t want to be near DC or at least in VA.

I’ve reread your post and see that you would prefer to avoid a private college for cost considerations, so my suggestion of H & WS may, unfortunately, not be suitable for your needs.

Beyond that, I’m agreeing with @BrownParent that you could find the general scholarship at some of your potential choices to be lacking. Some academically based ordering and categorizing, as a way of shaping your list, could prove to be instructive.

@midatlmom: I will definitely consider UNC then!

@PurpleTitan: Access to archives etc is not imperative, so being near DC is not necessary. It would be a plus to be near DC but I want a different experience from my year abroad.

@BrownParent: May I ask why you would not like to spend a year in Kansas or Oklahoma? You must remember I am coming from a foreign country and have never left Europe so going to Kansas or Oklahoma would be a whole new adventure for me even if it seems boring to the average American. I think pop culture has influenced many European students as to what college in the U.S. is like. Maybe me to an extent but I’ve always been interested in middle America and my second choice dissertation topic will be something to do with the history Midwest (perhaps the Dust Bowl or decline of the Rust Belt). I know I am not focusing much on academics but I don’t think the exchange partner I go to for a year will matter too much to future employers. As long as it is accredited. Employers will be more impressed by the fact I went on a year abroad rather than where.

@merc81: See the last few sentences in my reply to BrownParent above :slight_smile:

I also would like to say, the Midwest and South is also interesting to me as it is considerably cheaper and I am on a relatively low budget!

Actually, outside of big cities, costs will likely be similar.

The Dust Bowl and Rust Belt are/were in 2 specific different regions of the country.

@PurpleTitan: As an American History student, I’m fully aware of the location of the dust Bowl (primarily the great plains) and Rust Belt (from roughly Chicago, IL to Buffalo, NY) I was just demonstrating that my dissertation isn’t set for definite on foreign policy so going to DC may be pointless if I decide to write my dissertation on a fifferent topic in the end

LSU and Ole Miss aren’t near either of those areas. Mizzou isn’t really either.

I didn’t think about employers at all, I’m sure they will only care about where your diploma is from. I was thinking about you. I guess I have different interests than you.

I second CU Boulder (university of Colorado at Boulder). Great college town, beautiful with lots of hiking and nature, liberal, close to Denver (airport). Wonderful humanities profs—I’m sure you’ll be inspired by a year here. : )

I think private schools with tuition costs of 50k a year waive the tuition for their exchange students? I’m not sure if this is true for all schools (it is true for mine), but check.

Do state schools charge Out of State tuition? It could be that there is little to no difference in cost between the two types of school for an exchange year.

Oklahoma University may not meet your centrist, religious, or Fraternity/social restrictions. Not sure about KU. H &WS is, for all intents and purposes, “flyover”. You may wish to heed the wisdom of @merc81.

If you’re at an elite university in your home country you should know that the universities on your short list above are not especially known to attract the top students in this country and the classroom experience may be less than ideal for you. Not to say there won’t be some top students there - though I would imagine predominantly from the local region, or for a particular department or program for which that university is known. There are very specific departments for which some of those universities are well known and respected - such as the journalism department at University of Missouri, Columbia. I have no idea about the strength of the political science and history departments.

Consider seriously whether the classroom experience itself is a priority - if not, then by all means choose by the location, social and cultural experience, if you’re not concerned about the academics or the intellectual exchange with your peers.

And definitely check out the financial terms of the exchange. American students studying abroad at approved programs usually pay their own home tuition, not the university abroad - and their financial aid often goes with them.

I like your premise that the Midwest and south are good places to get a feel for what’s unique about the US. Big cities and wealthy coastal areas tend to attract similar people wherever u go. North Carolina has reputation as great college town, but its really just a few blocks of bars and restaurants and shops. For the criteria you mentioned, I think the 4 colleges on your original list are fine

At the moment my list is roughly (in no order):
— University of Missouri, Columbia, MO
— University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS
— University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
— Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, LA
— U of Mississippi, Oxford, MS

All excellent choices for your specific goal of getting to know the fly-over country. Two things that you should specifically investigate are special collections at the university libraries related to your possible research interests, and research and publication histories for the faculty in the department that you might be studying under while you are here.

Richmond is a very historic small city, and the school is one of the best on your list. Ole Miss and LSU would provide fascinating environments for you as well, particularly if you have any interest in the civil rights movement. You are taking a really good approach to this. Best of luck with your decision.

Agree with the statement that UNC Chapel Hill is one of the best schools on this list and with happymom’s advice re libraries and faculty. Would add that you should look at faculty in political science/government as well, since in the U.S. that’s often where you’ll find the people who study foreign policy. You might also think about where race fits into your study of the U.S. since the demographics of the schools/cities under consideration will vary pretty significantly.