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Ah yes, very original. Your multiple claims that I wanted to argue with you for the sole purpose of exerting my “pompousness” to other members of CC are pretty much moot since I asked you if you would like to continue the argument in a private message. As I expected, you declined the offer.</p>
<p>That is because arguing with you further would have been pointless. No matter what I would have said to you in our previous argument, you would never have given in–because you would never admit to being wrong… at least to me or chendrix anyway</p>
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If you actually believed what you said in your first sentence, our argument would not have been drawn out as long as it did on the other thread. As for the rest of this paragraph, I could say the exact same thing about you.</p>
<p>You were the aggressor in our last argument, not me. I wasn’t going to let you tell me something that I–and many other people–knew to be true, wasn’t true. How would you like it if someone told you your chances at your favorite school weren’t good? I highly doubt that you wouldn’t have drawn out the argument.</p>
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A subjective claim is not a factual statement, you seem to have a problem differentiating between the two.
Being a pragmatic person, I don’t need other people to tell me my chances at my favorite schools aren’t good. With sub 10% acceptance rates, I am well aware of my own chances at acceptance to my top schools. With this pragmatism in mind, I would neither make the statement you originally did nor draw out an argument with another poster if he suggested otherwise.</p>
<p>"With this pragmatism in mind, I would neither make the statement you originally did nor draw out an argument with another poster if he suggested otherwise. "</p>
<p>Of course you would never make the statement I made Jersey, how could I be so stupid? Nothing you ever do or say is wrong, how could I forget? It is ALL based on factual statements. My sincerest apologies.</p>
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Sarcasm aside and disregarding your not so feigned attempts at mockery, your first sentence is essentially true. I would never make a statement that my chances at my top schools are good.</p>
<p>can you please keep the arguing to a minimum. We should be trying to help high school students find the best school for themselves, not arguing over the size of our e-phallus. That being said, both of you are in high school as far as I can tell. Relax, the world is big enough for all of us.</p>
<p>Yeah my bad. If you have anything else to say (IV) you can PM me. As for the OP’s question, I would suggest you apply to whichever school you are more interested in (CAS Econ or CALS AEM) and not determine your choice based on which school would more likely accept you.</p>
<p>Very well, made this post before I saw tboone’s comment.</p>
<p>I really doubt you two would say crap like that to each other in person. Being a d*ck to words on an internet forum behind the veil of anonymity is easy. May I suggest either being civil or taking it outside? Because this isn’t solving anything, including the OP’s dilemma.</p>
<p>and we wouldnt want prospective students thinking cornellians like to argue profusely about everything… and you two are still in high school as someone said? chill out 
enjoy high school! and good luck with apps. who knows, maybe some day you’ll end up at the same college. let’s not alienate anyone before meeting and getting to know them.</p>
<p>OP, if you have any follow-up questions, dont hesitate to ask!</p>
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<p>As long as you attend the college that is a target, it doesn’t matter. The rest is up to the individual ability/ performance. If you have a 3.4 GPA from Duke or 3.4 GPA from Cornell, it is unlikely that you will even land an interview at elite IB and consulting firms unless you have astounding internship experience or something.</p>
<p>On the other hand, with a 3.7 GPA from any target college you’d stand a healthy chance for interview considerations from such firms.</p>
<p>To OP:</p>
<p>Just apply to AEM. </p>
<p>First of all, CAS Econ admissions is no joke. Its selectivity is on par with AEM.</p>
<p>Second, in AEM, you learn much more business-relevant skills/ courses. If you want to study business, AEM is better academic fit than Econ, in which you have to take a bunch of random arts science courses. (non-business courses)</p>
<p>Third, grading curves in AEM are easier than Econ. Not a scientific observation, but my friend who transferred from Econ to AEM told me that with the effort to get a B+ in an Econ course, he was able to get A’s in AEM courses. Racking up those A’s and jacking up your GPA would surely boost your chances for top IB/consulting jobs come recruiting season.</p>
<p>Fourth, internal transfer admission program into AEM is selective. From what I hear, it is getting harder to internal transfer into AEM each year due to increasing competitiveness/ popularity of the program each year.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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<p>Agreed 100% as someone 3 years out of college.</p>
<p>Going to a top school can matter in some areas, especially in Wall Street recruiting. </p>
<p>But CCers absolutely overestimate the differences b/w top colleges. How many times have we seen people put down schools over a couple % difference in acceptance rate or a 10 point difference in average SAT scores or because their school is ranked #14 instead of #10? It goes back to the fact most of these people are snot nosed, pimple faced teenagers that have nothing else going for them other than their academic achievements. Their entire identity becomes built into the college that they attend. And that’s sad.</p>
<p>The truth of the matter is, in the real world, no one is splitting those hairs. Attend a good college. The rest is entirely up to YOU.</p>
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<p>Not necessarily. </p>
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<li><p>Stanford gets heavy recruiting from Bay area/ LA firms, but not nearly as much from WS. (location) Business job interviews consist largely of location factors.</p></li>
<li><p>The question of whether Yale is stronger in recruiting than Dartmouth should take into account the percentage of student body from each school that aspires to get WS jobs. For some reason, Dartmouth is known to produce a lot of grads that aim to get WS jobs, while Yale is known to produce more grads aiming for elite Ph.D, JD, MD programs. </p></li>
<li><p>MIT- since it is a specialized science/tech school, many grads would enter engineering fields or seek advanced studies in such fields. Also, MIT grading is known to be notoriously difficult. Many MIT students suffer from horrible GPAs. I suspect the higher proportion of MIT student body that suffers having bad grades compared to Duke students may lead to more MIT students that are automatically disqualified from interview considerations from top firms.</p></li>
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<p>from personal experience, this is wrong. 3.4 is more than fine - i have a lower gpa than a 3.4 (not horribly lower, but a little…), had an ok internship last summer, and i still landed many interviews for elite hedge funds/banks AND an internship this summer for a big bank. also, when i met kids during superdays/second round interviews, while many had 3.7/3.8, there were also many who had lower. </p>
<p>diversity and passion is what counts. do something to diversify yourself from other candidates.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the feedback! I was out of town, so I just got to read this. I think I will just apply to the AEM program and hope for the best, if I don’t get in oh well I’ll just go to a lower school like Lehigh University or a UC school. Its only undergraduate after all.</p>