This is because student visas are only issued once someone has an admit from a particular school. They will then use that visa to enter the US and can then provide proof of legal status to the college. You will not be able to get a student visa even if you are admitted, so you will be unable to enroll.
I know others have given you advice on colleges that admit undocumented students and I sent you a PM some time ago with useful links to find those. Save your time and energy for schools that can enrol you.
The checklist was created by someone who only needs to track what students have to submit to apply to their college. That office isn’t concerned with state law because it’s not their job to enforce it. But there are many different offices in a college. The ones that are responsible for making sure the state and federal laws are followed take their jobs very seriously because if they don’t do their jobs correctly their institution risks losing their federal funding and accreditation. They aren’t going to forget or overlook the laws.
I think you’re using the wrong strategy. Instead of focusing on individual colleges you should start by looking at state laws. Which states allow undocumented students to enroll? There’s a link somewhere in this thread that tells you. Start there. If a state requires documentation that you can’t provide, don’t waste your money applying there.
Well I emailed admissions If my high school transcript is only thing that is required for admissions that they said correct it is the only thing required there’s literally a option on the common application that allows you to apply if you don’t have a visa
Some of your statements above are correct. You do not need to supply proof of citizenship or resident status to APPLY. Edit: Unless qualifying for in-state tuition in your home state. The Common App does not require it to APPLY to the multiple schools that accept it. HOWEVER, each individual school has their own policies regarding ENROLLMENT that you should take the time to lookup on the college websites. In the case of Georgia public universities, the University System of Georgia does not allow undocumented students. As of June 2020, “Georgia has been classified as Restrictive. This means that Georgia has passed state wide legislation prohibiting undocumented students from enrolling in public institutions and/or receiving in-state tuition.” (FYI Georgia Tech is a public institution.)
I personally do not agree with that policy. It is unfortunate that “Dreamers” are treated differently state to state and school to school. But that is the reality. The kind people who have taken time to try to help you are simply trying to keep you from wasting time and money applying to schools with restrictive policies regarding immigration status.
I wish you the best in your college search. Spend some more time on researching the colleges that do not have those restrictions.
Go for it. Spend your time and money applying, getting admitted (maybe), and then not getting to enroll because you can’t provide the right paperwork. You can also be admitted and receive no financial aid at all (state, federal are out for sure) so won’t be able to afford it.
@Pandas452 Adding to the above as I re-read your comment… I am by no means an expert. I am on this site as a parent going through this process for the first time. I am relying on the wealth of knowledge the long time members are generous enough to share.
But I did just notice that you plan to apply as an international student. If I understand the previous posts, you would have to do that through your home country and get the appropriate visas. Most visas are for a limited time and would require you to return to that country or apply for resident status to stay legally. I don’t know all the details but have a bit of experience as my D’s father went through the green card / permanent resident / citizen process years ago.
Please listen to the posters comments. If it makes you feel better to have confirmation, take the specific comments to your guidance counselor and ask for assistance looking up each college’s requirements to actually enroll and register for classes.
If you want to ignore the policies and rules regarding undocumented individuals and Georgia oil liv colleges, fine. As you are doing so, go kn ahead and apply as you have, send them the paper work, take up your time, take the chance that after all of tha, when asked to give your evidence of being in this country legally, it goes down the drain. As you have been doing, go on ahead and take that chance you won’t get caught.
I advise you to have some back up schools that will accept you without the documentation, and allow your to attend. Where you will not have to worry when you are asked for evidence of being in country legally. Just in case, GTech asks you and you can’t enroll there.
You cannot file the FAFSA, so I don’t know how you’ll qualify for aid.
When you contacted the admissions office and asked if all you needed was your high school transcript, did you tell them you are an undocumented person? The answer might have been different if they person answering the phone knew your entire story.
You started by asking if you could go to a SC school by submitting an affidavit of intent to become a legal resident. You accepted that the answer was no, an affidavit will not work. Now you’ve moved on to GTech and won’t accept that you need to apply as an international student from your country of citizenship and that most likely will require you to return to that country and apply for an F1 visa and that financial aid for international students is very limited.
OP is applying to Georgia Tech as an international student and is applying for financial aid as such, so he will not (can not legitimately) file FAFSA. Though they can fill out CSS PROFILE, Georgia Tech makes it very clear that most of their awards do not go to international undergraduates. Those with certain visas can get jobs and other stop gap funding, but the chances of getting any substantial aid is about zilch. OP should call the Financial Aid Director to verify those, but it is on their website.
OP thinks that that GT won’t ask for Visa information and other verification of legal status before enrolling., and wants to take the chance that e’ll slip through and get financial/merit money as well. He certainly can and has started the process.
It would of been in the checklist for lawful presence but since I applied as a international student with no visa it’s not required or else it would be in the checklist. Why would you accept it. I already have my buzzport and Oscar account and their not asking for lawful presence . If you guys can tell me how to make a applyweb account for Georgia tech I can tell you that the lawful presence status will say not applicable.
@Pandas452 … I’m not sure what checklists you are referring to but the university’s policies should be your guide. If you have a plan to meet the criteria explained on the page below then go for it.
As other posters have said (and as GTech website says), they won’t ask for your visa (lawful presence) until you are accepted. They are happy to take your application fee meanwhile.
Again. It is not asked for at the application stage because the majority of international students (other than those already in the US on a different visa type) do not already have visas. A student visa is only granted after a school issues a form called an i20 to an admitted student, which is then used to apply for a student visa (and it is never guaranteed one will be issued). When you arrive on campus ready to enroll, that is the point at which you are expected to have a visa.
I do not understand why you keep ignoring what people are explaining to you. We are trying to help. Please focus your energy on the schools that will not deny you enrollment because of your status. They are out there, but not in SC or Georgia.
Here’s an analogy: To drive a car, there are no requirements to enter a car dealership. To purchase a car, you need money. The people who take your money don’t care if you can drive it, they just want the money. To actually drive the car, you need to be a licensed driver - you need to be legal.
Colleges are similar. You don’t have the legalities to enroll ( be a licensed driver in the above analogy) in Georgia Tech. You need to be in the country legally - have a visa in order to enroll. As someone who is undocumented, you won’t get that here and you won’t get that in your home country, because you’ve been in the US illegally. You won’t have the money either. So, although you can apply, you’re not going to be able to buy the car that is Georgia Tech because of money and you won’t be able to enroll because you’re not legally allowed to.
There are other states or countries where you will be allowed to enroll. Focus on applying to schools in those states or countries.
ok that anaology was just ridiculous there is no requirement for lawful presence in my admission portal all its asking is for a high school transcript The guy at I emailed at Georgia tech said that was the pony thing required so and they know that I applied as a international student with no visa and on the instructions on Georgia tech it says that I would have to submit my lawful presence if it’s on the checklist of my admisión portal which is not in mine. So that means I can enroll at Georgia tech as a undocumented student applying as a international case closed.
Things are added to student portals all the time. Once students are admitted, many things are added that wouldn’t be added if students are rejected. Financial aid information, room and board applications, and immigration status documentation are all things that are added when students need them. Students who aren’t accepted won’t need them, so why would they be added to the portal before decisions come out?
According to GA Tech’s website, “The State of Georgia requires Georgia Institute of Technology verify lawful presence of all students prior to enrollment in classes.” International students “require a VISA to enter and study in the United States.” It doesn’t matter what some worker told you. The official website is telling you that you’ll need to provide the college with proof of lawful status before you’re permitted to enroll. If you’re applying as an international student, you need a VISA. How will you get one?
The CSS Profile is just an application that collects financial information. Anyone can submit it, but that doesn’t mean they’re eligible for institutional aid. Each college will determine if the student meets their eligibility criteria. Georgia Tech doesn’t give much institutional aid to international students, and I don’t believe it gives any to undocumented students. You won’t get aid meant for international students unless you can provide the documentation showing that you’re eligible to receive it. According to the GA Tech website, it looks like that means a student VISA.
You seem to be under the impression that if an application for admission or financial aid is accepted by the computer system that you’ll be eligible to enroll and get financial aid. Neither of those is true. The computer system isn’t set up to catch these types of things. Citizenship status and financial aid eligibility are going to be determined by the people at the colleges you apply to, and some of those steps only happen after a student is accepted. International students need a college acceptance to get a student VISA, so colleges aren’t going to ask for a VISA before the student is admitted because there’s no way a student could have one. But once a student is admitted, they’re going to have to collect whatever paperwork the state requires. Students who can’t/won’t provide it won’t be allowed to register for classes.
Lol now you don’t Want to accept the fact that a official worker on Georgia tech said that. You are a joke because literally a Georgia tech official told me the things required. You said that they wouldn’t need my lawful presence then why are they asking me for everything except for lawful presence? Your telling me that only one requirement Will suddenly pop up if I get accepted yeah no.