<p>Certain minorities get affirmative action because they are born minorities and supposedly are "inherently" disadvantaged. So why not give Affirmative Action to "slower" people with lower IQs? I mean, if a person with 80 IQ and a person with 130 IQ have the same stats, the person with 80 IQ should be admitted. After all, they had to overcome a huge disadvantage too.</p>
<p>IQ is subjective. What are you defining as intelligence? </p>
<p>I do hope you are kidding.</p>
<p>Ha...ha...ha.</p>
<p>Imagine Harvard filled with 90 IQ overachievers.</p>
<p>I know its quite funny. People trying to "study" for IQ tests so they can get lower scores on purpose to help them. A new kind of hook.</p>
<p>I guess that by this analogy, you expect us to all go along with the premise that affirmative action helps admit people who can't do the work. </p>
<p>I reject that premise.</p>
<p>Or the alternative is that you don't understand the difference between someone who is permanently and congenitally unable to do the work usually demanded by the college, and those who could do the work but for whom the typical measures aren't a reliable indicator of aptitude.</p>
<p>Hoedown, someone who has a lower IQ but works harder and achieves the same result cannot be classified as "someone who is permanently and congenitally unable to do the work usually demanded by the college".</p>
<p>I resent that notion. I have friends who are brilliant, much more so than me, but I'm able to stay at their level because I work harder.</p>
<p>Oddly enough I just commented on another thread on my stance which similarly affects this. I agree with the OP. If someone is inherently disadvantaged intellectually, but manages to output at equivalent or superior levels, the person does have a bit more “worth” to them. However, I do believe colleges, for the most part, desire the “best and brightest” students. And well, more intelligent=more potential. The student that is smarter in your scenario could be harnessed in college to achieve full potential, whereas the less intelligent student has most likely already maxed out, so to speak. </p>
<p>P.S. I think we should make a new thread about value and worth and their actual and ideal roles in the college admissions process, life, and beyond.</p>
<p>how about: affirmative action helps admit people who DON’T do the work AS WELL AS OTHER PEOPLE. </p>
<p>Ho, affirmative action admits are almost by definition people who do less well than others, otherwise why would they need AA?</p>
<p>Assuming that IQ is an accurate measure of intelligence, a person with an IQ of 80 is inherently less able to do the work than a person with an IQ of 130. An inner-city black kid is not inherently less able to do the work than you.</p>
<p>Seriously, get off your high horse.</p>
<p>If the low IQ is a result of mental problems like autism and the applicant is able to do the work of an ideal student with higher IQs/no mental problems, then it COULD help.</p>
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<p>Yes, a crucial distinction.</p>