<p>Good to hear Cuse. There shouldn’t be any problems with identification with all the video shot. Will wait to see how it is handled–but very good first step.</p>
<p>That’s a good response from the Chancellor.</p>
<p>Just thought I’d share some more information about the group that invited Tancredo to speak at Carolina; YWC’s branch at Michigan State University was actually designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center after some terrible demonstrations that are detailed in this article. The group’s founder is also linked to neo-Nazis.</p>
<p>[White</a> Nationalist-Linked ‘Right-Wing Youth’ Group Debuts At CPAC | Hatewatch | Southern Poverty Law Center](<a href=“http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/02/26/white-nationalist-linked-right-wing-youth-group-debuts-at-cpac/]White”>http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/02/26/white-nationalist-linked-right-wing-youth-group-debuts-at-cpac/)</p>
<p>While I agree that no protest should ever become violent, this white supremacist group is very concerning and unwelcome at UNC. </p>
<p>And on a side note, the window of Bingham that was broken during the speech was shattered from a protester banging on it to make noise to disrupt the presentation, not from any throwing of rocks or bricks at buildings.</p>
<p>“And on a side note, the window of Bingham that was broken during the speech was shattered from a protester banging on it to make noise to disrupt the presentation, not from any throwing of rocks or bricks at buildings.”</p>
<p>That’s a relief. Destruction of property by fist is much better than by rock or brick.</p>
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<p>It isn’t a white supremacist group. I challenge you to look at today’s DTH, where you will find a letter from the group’s faculty sponsor addressing this flawed claim.</p>
<p>If this group is not welcome at UNC, then any pro-African American, Asian, Hispanic, etc. groups should be outlawed as well. Fortunately, that will never happen, because most people (unlike those who protested yesterday) understand that our constitution guarantees us the right to speak and assemble as we please. </p>
<p>Hopefully, after the investigations are complete, student congress will respond by eliminating funding for the groups that disrupted Mr. Tancredo’s event.</p>
<p>Also, the source you provided is incredibly biased and is useless for furthering the discussion.</p>
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While I certainly don’t condone the events of this protest, my point was that it wasn’t necessarily intentional destruction of property; the protester got carried away. It wasn’t a purposeful act of violence.</p>
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The reason for diversity groups such as Black Student Movement and ChiSpa is that those groups are UNDERREPRESENTED on campus. Because EVERY club is essentially “White Club,” it’s necessary to have multicultural groups to create a more diverse dialogue. It’s unnecessary to have a club for members of the ethnicity that’s in the majority on a campus because they already have a voice.</p>
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I have read all of the editorials in today’s Daily Tar Heel, and I am still convinced that this group is a hate group. It expresses distaste for any cultures that are not “Western” (Western cultures being those that have been historically imperialist and white-centric) as well as disdain for any change that could be brought to our nation through an influx of immigration. In fact, with events like MSU’s “Catch an Illegal Alien Day,” it actually takes threatening action against immigrants. YWC aims to “take over” student governments at college campuses and its web site’s symbolic emblem is a hammer. These are both threatening messages. The group’s discourse is absolutely reminiscent of the KKK, right down to its slogan (found on the official web site): “This is our country–take it back.”</p>
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<p>What makes you so sure of this? If you start pounding a window, you have to know that it is liable to break.</p>
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<p>Right. And this club isn’t a “white” club; anyone is welcome to join. Its more of a pro-American club. </p>
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<p>Well, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. However, events such as “catch an illegal alien (aka criminal) day” aren’t threatening to anyone, they are more light-hearted than anything else. You don’t have to agree with this group’s viewpoints, that’s fine. But they aren’t a threat to anyone, and they have a right to be here just like any campus group. The only “hate” groups on this campus are those that wouldn’t allow Mr. Tancredo to speak last night.</p>
<p>i didnt read all of the subsequent posts after the first one, but wow, that’s pretty bad. especially for a campus thats supposed to have such intelligent students. youd think just about everyone would be able to grasp the reasons for free speech and the proper venues for protest. berkley has an equal reputation though and they’ve done crazier things. i definitely do not have a negative view of protest, i actually think its patriotic to protest things, but not when it turns to destruction.</p>
<p>The YWC people do sound similar to kkk. I guess their goal is for everyone to conform to western culture? No offense to anyone, but that would seriously suck. I guess they don’t like Obama?
Although I am no fan of the group, I believe in free speech. What happened at UNC may have had good intentions, but it just went a bit too far.</p>
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<p>Apparently the window smasher had a pure heart, contrary to all other indications.</p>
<p>Coolbreeze, there is really no need for sarcasm.</p>
<p>DTH this morning is full of people condemning the protesters. Apparently, people are more reasonable here than was shown yesterday. Maybe I’m not so ashamed after all…</p>
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<p>blairb91, there is really no need for you to monitor my use of sarcasm.</p>
<p>I don’t think you should be ashamed of your school as a whole Cuse. Yes, some people went overboard with their protests. But the feel I am getting from most students here is that the protesters went too far. Most students don’t agree with the sponsoring group’s viewpoints, but they do agree that Tancredo had the right to speak here. I’m pretty proud of the response to the protest that got out of hand. I’ve also heard that there is going to be a forum about the protest this evening outside of the Union, to discuss what happened. It’s going to have reps from the Campus Y, the Executive Branch of student government, Young Democrats, College Republicans, and the Coalition for College Access. Should be interesting.</p>
<p>I haven’t posted any more responses to this thread because, as I said, I don’t agree with the actions of the protesters. I was just trying to provide another perspective.</p>
<p>I suppose prospective students who were concerned about going to a “Southern school” should be glad to see that there’s been so much backlash here against this arguably racist organization.</p>
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<p>Anyone who is glad that the protests happened does not need to be coming to this university. The last thing we need here is more radical, close-minded individuals who won’t permit dissenting viewpoints to be represented on campus.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, our university is being criticized by people across the country for the deplorable actions that occurred on Tuesday night. The message that the protesters sent was one of ignorance and intolerance, and now we are forced to work to correct it. I think that the Student Congress should eliminate funding for any groups that participated in the melee (not the protesting, just the disruption and violence). The money saved should then be used to bring Mr. Tancredo back, so that he can finish his speech.</p>
<p>Tolerance of intolerance is not tolerance at all.</p>
<p>I think it’s safe to say that the majority or students on campus feel that the protesters had every right to be there and that Tim Tancredo had every right to speak. Just about everyone I have spoken to about it believes that the minority of protesters that are being criticized (being disruptive, breaking windows, etc.) were completely out of line.</p>
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<p>Agreed-which is why I’m glad the university isn’t tolerating the hateful intolerance of the protesters.</p>
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<p>I think Leah was talking about the “Youth for Western Civilization” group. She wasn’t saying anything in support of the protests…she was simply saying those worried about racism or intolerance at a Southern school shouldn’t be, since most students protest the actual group that sponsored the speech.</p>