Aftermath: When, if at all, will Penn State recover?

<p>better to go up regardless of what you think about the rankings. We are above, but not significantly so, U illinois and wisconsin. PSU was ranked 47 or 48 in the last rankings.
And with the exception of the alumni giving category, all the other factors are legit and of importance to students</p>

<p>We’re a good school. That’s all there is to it. We were before, and we still are now</p>

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<p>Exactly!</p>

<p>an update from the NCAA … [NCAA</a> reduces scholarship sanctions on Penn State from Jerry Sandusky scandal | Campus Union - SI.com](<a href=“http://college-football.si.com/2013/09/24/ncaa-penn-state-scholarship-sanctions/?sct=hp_t2_a1&eref=sihp]NCAA”>http://college-football.si.com/2013/09/24/ncaa-penn-state-scholarship-sanctions/?sct=hp_t2_a1&eref=sihp)</p>

<p>US News and World Report ranks Penn State #37 in the country - way up from the last ranking. </p>

<p>[National</a> University Rankings | Top National Universities | US News Best Colleges](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/page+4]National”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/page+4)</p>

<p>PSU HAS and will endure - so proud of the students, their efforts, THON and so much more! </p>

<p>PSU is also ranked #1 in the country for career services by the Princeton Review ([Short</a> Registration](<a href=“Best Colleges for Career Services | The Princeton Review”>Best Colleges for Career Services | The Princeton Review)) - ranked highly in so many areas - it is an impressive list!!! </p>

<p>[Rankings</a> | Penn State University](<a href=“http://www.psu.edu/this-is-penn-state/rankings]Rankings”>Penn State Facts | University Rankings | Best Universities in the World | Penn State)</p>

<p>Yes the US News is a well thought of ranking system. Like all rankings it is system that has certain biases built in. Another well thought of ranking is the London Times rankings. There Penn State is rated 49th in the world ahead of Ivy’s such as Brown and Dartmouth as well as such well known schools as USC, Emory, Vanderbuilt, Tufts Etc. Among American Universities Penn State ranks 28th. Leaving out the top US and British universities Penn State is as highly ranked as the top schools in many developed countries where education is highly valued. </p>

<p>The rating by recruiters is important in many ways. When I speak with my Ivy friends they report that the places where they went to college were dark places filled with very strange people, hyper focused on academics and living in the library. Penn State has fufilled every tenant of the Morrill act to promote the liberal and practical education to the industrial classes. </p>

<p>Jerry Sandusky is of little consequence except to the individuals who he preyed upon. There are criminals in any organizaton of 500,000 people. We are repulsed by his actions and any actions that did not bring him to justice quickly enough (the failed prosecution in 1998 did not help anyone) If anything he made a strong place stronger by causing a re examination of what Penn State is a place where the middle income highly performing students of Pennsylvania can come and get a World class education for a reasonable price. </p>

<p>I am and always will be grateful for the opportunity that was presented to me by Penn State.</p>

<p>Joe BS MS PhD</p>

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<p>Sorry, I can’t let this pass. Neither my ivy educated son nor any other ivy grad I know would make such a comment. Each student has a great deal of control over what they take away from their college experience. If your friends experienced their colleges as dark places filled with strange people, perhaps that is more of a comment on them than the institutions. </p>

<p>My son found a vibrant community filled with people who were engaged in many interests in addition to their academic studies. They danced, volunteered, were politically active, studied abroad. The resources of his school were beyond comparison and the students made good use of them.</p>

<p>PSU does a wonderful job fulfilling its mission as a land grant college. It is not necessary to belittle other institutions to prove that point.</p>

<p>Dark places filled with strange people? Really–not only uncalled for and inaccurate but very unflattering to PSU. I am learning more about Penn State for one my kids and have been impressed. I frankly knew nothing about Penn State and thought little of it; a visit and research changed my mind completely. But when I read a statement from PSU suggesting that students at Princeton, or Penn, or Dartmouth are "strange’ and dark, I wonder about Penn State, not those schools.</p>

<p>Please do not consider the ivy remark as indicative of the opinion of the Penn State Community. drjafields is expressing his own views; they are not necessarily the views of the student body or alumni.</p>

<p>It is a shame that Bill O’Brien, who had exceeded the expectations of almost everyone, felt unappreciated by Paterno loyalists. Here is what he said in early December to a Patriot News columnist: </p>

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<p>This cannot make it easier to attract another coach of his caliber.</p>

<p>few people believe this to be true. BOB had OVERWHELMING support on campus and with alumni.
These are just cover statements that usually get said when someone leaves from a position early- geesh I really wanted to stay and complete the job, but condition x or y drove me out. Even the way the story was released made it clear he was devising a plan for his exit this year.
Read the article, he was planning his exit at the beginning of Dec, yet he kept telling recruits and players he was coming back. I don’t blame him and I am grateful for what he had done in his two years, but man up and just say (what he has for two years) that he wanted to get back to the NFL and this is one opportunity that he can’t let go</p>

<p>Seems coach O’Brien sometimes wore his heart on his sleeve and he was genuinely ****ed off when he made these statements. He didn’t like getting questioned on why Vanderlinden was not returning as LB coach. But I agree with luvthej - although there may have been some friction with a small faction of alumni, he had the support of the huge majority of the PSU family. Even among those that initially questioned his hiring. The primary reason he left is that he wanted to be a head coach in the NFL, and the timing and opportunity was perfect for him. </p>

<p>Penn State will end up with another excellent coach - bank on it. Unless all the news reports are wrong, many very good candidates are interested and BOB can be partially thanked for that. Whether he should have stayed for a longer time can be debated, but in the long run BOB will be lauded for guiding Penn State through difficult times (along with the players who were true to the team) and for saving the program from going into a steep decline.</p>

<p>additionally, the O’Brien’s older son will receive specialist care in Houston unparalleled across the nation. His devotion to his family is first on his mind. Of course he said he would stay, that’s what coaches do. He was a rental, and a fine one.</p>

<p>Maybe it’s time for the moderators to remove this thread from the top of the PSU forum? Penn State has named a new president and applications for admission are up 17% after a dip last year. How else will we define “recover”?</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.centredaily.com/2014/02/17/4041762/penn-states-next-president-eric.html”>http://www.centredaily.com/2014/02/17/4041762/penn-states-next-president-eric.html&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.centredaily.com/2014/02/02/4015445/penn-state-sees-rise-in-applications.html”>http://www.centredaily.com/2014/02/02/4015445/penn-state-sees-rise-in-applications.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Agree - this thread should no longer be highlighted. Recovery - as expected - is moving along just fine.</p>