<p>OK, OK we know what happened
Let us cut to the case, are you reconsidering Penn State and SHC?
I know all the arguments on the other thread
If people choose not to attend PSU just because Joe Pa messed up and got fired....then their reasons for attending in the first place were probably wrong.
so don't bother bringing up the story...
Regardless, be nice to one another and list why you (your son/ D) are or arent going to go Penn State.</p>
<p>If your sole reason to attend PSU was for the football program (fan, participant, party-animal, whatever) - okay…I can see people hesitating.</p>
<p>But if you’re reason for attending PSU is because of the great academic programs, the strong school spirit (with or without football), the great honors college, the beautiful campus, and the wonderful small-town setting - then I don’t see how any of that has changed.</p>
<p>I would imagine that there will be quite a few people who will stay away from applying/attending PSU as the name itself will be tainted for many years to come.</p>
<p>Yes, I understand that it was one man’s crime, and a few more staff covering up, and a few Board of Regents having inside knowledge, but students and parents will stay away. There are many other choices. Plain and simple.</p>
<p>This scandal couldn’t have come at a more inconvenient time. I’m sure a lot of people are reconsidering, I know I would. The school’s reputation is tarnished right now.</p>
<p>Two heavily recruited seniors in my area (MA) have decided to go elsewhere precisely because of the scandal. Their feeling, with which I agree, is that the fallout will be substantial and long-lived. Unfair to the school itself and the students already there who had nothing to do with it, but let it be a lesson to the heads of other schools so that this does not happen again.</p>
<p>Just wondering…how many people decided not to go to Virginia Tech after the shootings?</p>
<p>Last time I heard, the school still turns away hundreds of qualified applicants each year.</p>
<p>Terriergirl: It’s a little different, in that the President of Va Tech and its football staff had nothing to do with the shooter. In other words, if the Pres of Va Tech et al., had known of a mass shooting and covered it up, they would be just as bad as the Penn State crew.</p>
<p>I personally think it is blown way out of proportion. Obviously the focus is taken away from the kids and placed on the school. but we are not here to talk about what we cant change, but what we plan to do. I just wanted to see how many people are feeling “Less Safe” to go there… I know very well about the events that happened, I have opinions and so do you… i am not here to change them too. I just want to know what actions you are going to take…
Me. I am going to go to SHC, if rejected I will still go because of the gateway process.</p>
<p>I’ve been accepted already and I am not letting this scandal affect my decision making process at all. The academic are the same, the students are the same, the spirit is the same, the community is the same, the teachers are the same. Everything (for the most part) will still be the same, and Penn State is still a great school.</p>
<p>Good decision!</p>
<p>PSU is undoubtedly a fine school, academically and in many other ways. But if my D were still in HS, I’d caution her against going there now. This event will define PSU in the public eye for decades to come, and I wouldn’t want her to have to live with that for the rest of her life.</p>
<p>This event will indeed define PSU for years to come - but that “definition” is up for grabs. For the adults involved in this horrific situation - their boat has sailed. But the students (former, current, future) of PSU have a chance to show the public what it really means to be part of the Penn State community. </p>
<p>There is already a start, with the Blue Out movement. I have no doubt that this movement will continue to grow - raising money and awareness and demonstrating the determination of the PSU student body. <a href=“http://www.wpsu.org/calendar/details/41723[/url]”>http://www.wpsu.org/calendar/details/41723</a></p>
<p>Remember these are the young people who do THON every year, raising millions of dollars for children’s cancer. [Home</a> | THON.org - Conquering Childhood Cancer](<a href=“http://www.thon.org/]Home”>http://www.thon.org/)</p>
<p>And, yes - I am proud to be a Penn State (and Blue Band) Parent.</p>
<p>Fox News reports that Penn State’s top football recruit has backed out and will not attend due to the scandal.</p>
<p>[Penn</a> State’s Top Recruit Backs Away From Commitment Amid Sex Scandal | Fox News](<a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/11/11/penn-states-top-recruit-backs-away-from-commitment-amid-sex-scandal/]Penn”>Penn State's Top Recruit Backs Away from Commitment Amid Sex Scandal | Fox News)</p>
<p>People who fail to see what a stupid thing they are doing in there life. Why would you deny Penn State if you got in over something like that?</p>
<p>To LasMa: DECADES??? Really??? Come on – the hyperbole is out of control here.</p>
<p>The concern, from a parent’s perspective, is always and first the safety of my child. For the mother of a daughter, I have no confidence whatsoever that the administration of this school will hold my child safe in their stead, particularly if a student athelete is at risk. I beleive that this school placed the football program over the welfare of children and ,god forbid, my daughter was raped or abused, if it was in the schools interest, the case would be buried if at all possible. Her health and welfare would mean nothing.</p>
<p>Because of that, I have told her that I would be hard pressed to allow her to attend PSU in the fall. Add to that my perspective from years of experience is that there will be huge financial fall out from this situation for the school which will impact tuition, and an alumni base much less willing to make up the difference. Based on all of this, as well as tuition that for an instate student is already far too expensive, the school holds little to bring us there now.</p>
<p>Tonight, thousands of us will gather in front of Old Main again, but this time for a candlelight vigil for the abused victims. Tomorrow, we have changed one of our storied traditions, the Penn State White-Out, for a Blue-Out, again in support of the victims. If you happen to come on campus you might see a large percentage of people in blue shirts bought to support, again, the abused victims (proceeds go to them) courtesy of a student effort to get McClanahan’s to sell them.</p>
<p>That is Penn State. I’m writing this here, not to be overly pessimistic, but because the media hasn’t given us a fair shake and they may not cover these events as they don’t portray Penn State in it’s stereotyped role. But to those considering withdrawing, please do understand we are doing something, many things for the victims and to atone for the mistakes of a few and that the media has focused on a very small number of us (specifically 3 in particular).</p>
<p>@momofa12 I’m very sorry that you feel such a lack of trust with the university, but as a student, that sense is not shared whatsoever. But, from personal experience, if you happen to apply to the SHC, you will be rewarded with the most hands-on and concerned dean (Dean Brady who does post here occasionally) and staff that you can find anywhere. I have absolute confidence in their ability to manage situations and fully don’t believe they would do something as abhorrent as “plac[ing] the football program over the welfare of children.” Any more, feel free to ask or PM me.</p>
<p>The reality is that from an employer prospective a degree from Penn State will be tarnished for years to come - this is just the tip of an iceberg. There will be numerous civil, and criminal lawsuits for many years - this will remain in the spotlight for a long time. Whether it is right or wrong Penn State will be tarnished - it is the baby with the bathwater scenario. The corporate sponsors are already pulling out of Penn State - with the thousands of other colleges and universities it will be a risk to get a degree from Penn State.</p>
<p>This is not true at all. I would not refuse to hire someone because they went to PSU. It’s ACADEMIC reputation will not change.</p>
<p>I have a lot of sympathy for the current students who are dealing with this debacle, and appreciate PSUstudent15’s thoughtful post. That said, I would hesitate to send my daughter there. Not because of any safety issues, but because I do believe the school’s reputation is tarnished - right or wrong - and that it will take years and maybe decades to repair it. It’s a shame. Penn was one of the top 5 on my wish list for her.</p>