Alabama or UCLA? HELP ME CHOOSE!!!

<p>“Kind of sounds like you have already made up your mind. Just trying to justify the choice. Those kids from high school, you did not take their slot at any school. They didn’t have the stats to get in on THEIR work.”</p>

<p>Just tell them to apply to Alabama. I am sure they would get in easily.</p>

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<p>As for “the look” we get when people realize my son is attending UA, we also get “the look” of jealously when we tell them why he chose to attend UA. They can not believe the merit aid he receives, the fact that he has his own bedroom, began college with almost a soph. standing, gets many perks while being a member of the Honors College, has had so many opportunities for community service, the ranking of their law school, how my son has friends from all over the country, etc… </p>

<p>Most of the time “the look” is followed by “WOW! How did he know about all of this!!!” They then go on to complain about things such as how much they are paying for their child to attend college, how their child is in a “triple”, how their child could not get a class he/she wanted, etc… I can not even begin to tell you how happy my son is. And…because he is so happy, I am happy. I only wish every student loved his/her college as much as my son loves UA. </p>

<p>My daughter, a HS junior, now wants to attend UA, too… Both kids 13 hours away from home!!! YEP, and I will survive, knowing that my kids are being well cared for by the Bama family. Take a look at UA’s forum on CC… Note things such as how UAhousing responds to questions posted there. Notice how the school takes our suggestions and puts them in to place when possible. Take note of how helpful and caring everyone is… :-)</p>

<p>“Just tell them to apply to Alabama. I am sure they would get in easily.”</p>

<p>Nice one. I sure hope that UMichigan degree got you a good job and didn’t cost you much. It seems that it didn’t improve your inadequacies or insecurities in any way. I guess putting down other schools is your way to improve your self worth. Maybe you should try getting a dog or partaking in a hobby that you’re good at? That might help make you feel better.</p>

<p>The posse has arrived straight from the Alabama board:</p>

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Alabama or UCLA? HELP ME CHOOSE!!!</p>

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<p>Maybe, maybe not. For a state school, Bama’s acceptance rate isn’t that high. It’s 53%…so about half of the applicants are rejected. Compare that to Mich State. It’s acceptance rate is 70%. UMich’s rate is about 36%.</p>

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<p>Right, because all 40k students are on campus at the same time :rolleyes:</p>

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<p>You’ll get the look for attending Alabama over a number of other schools. The question is how much are you going to let it bother you. </p>

<p>Alabama’s currently trying to buy a large number of top students, i imagine, to both increase its ranking, and establish a trend of high quality students who will take their positive experience there and share it with others. In attracting top students, i assume they’ll eventually hope to attract a number of top faculty as well.</p>

<p>One thing you should take into consideration is that UCLA’s endowment is around 5x Alabama’s. (.617m v. 2.98b) So UCLA has quite a bit more money to get top research facilities, top faculty, and the like. The difference gives UCLA the flexibility in doing a number of things that Alabama simply couldn’t do.</p>

<p>Overall you should pick the university you’re more comfortable with. A motivated student can achieve the same outcome at university A or university B. You have to decide for yourself whether the UCLA experience is worth the money. The experience includes top facilities, top faculty, top students, and essentially unrivaled diversity.</p>

<p>You do seem like you’re leaning towards Alabama. Before you make any final decisions, i think you should watch this video and see how you feel about UCLA afterwards:</p>

<p>[Welcome</a> to UCLA! - YouTube](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1e11lsrSvw]Welcome”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1e11lsrSvw)</p>

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<p>I’m hardly a prestige hound, so I won’t argue that UCLA is superior to Alabama. One can become an MD attending just about any U, because being a successful applicant to m-school is dependent just about solely on the person applying. If all Harvard eligible premeds attended school at Alabama, we’d all be talking about how Bama is no. 1 in producing MDs. </p>

<p>With this said, your statement in bold is ludicrous. Here’s a link to the aamc.org [website](<a href=“https://www.aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/86042/table2.html”>https://www.aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/86042/table2.html&lt;/a&gt;). UCLA had 823 applicants to med school in 2012, and Bama as far as I can see, wasn’t even a blip on the charts and was nowhere to be found. You have to expect that ~ 500 UCLA grads had acceptances for that year. I don’t even see that Bama had even 200 or even 100 who applied. Bama doesn’t even register among fellow SEC u’s, with Florida being the tops in this grouping.</p>

<p>Yes, UC grads acceptance rates are lower in many ways because many desire CA m-schools, which are the hardest of all state’s groups to gain acceptance.</p>

<p>Sorry, rjknovi and Alexandre, nice effort by your team however.</p>

<p>Bama is nowhere to be found on that link? Look again. I found it. </p>

<p>Granted, Bama doesn’t have nearly as many med school applicants as UCLA, but of those that do apply, Bama has a high acceptance rate…about 85% is what the premed advising states. Bama does Committee Letters, I don’t think UCLA does. </p>

<p>That said, Bama’s med school applicant numbers are rising and will continue to rise. It’s slowly becoming a school that premed students are choosing because they can save their college money for med school. I recently heard that 50% of the ChemE students at Bama are premed. That’s a big change. </p>

<p>UCLA’s med school acceptance rate is similar to most of the other UCs…around 50%. So much for “ludicrous” statements. There’s a reason why Calif premed students have to look hard outside the state for med school acceptances (particularly at Midwest private SOMs). The competition for seats at Calif SOMs is very stiff.</p>

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<p>I stand corrected. I didn’t look at page 2, 121 applicants in 2012. However, if Bama is a mid-tier m-school feeder in the SEC, how can it possibly compare just about any other u? </p>

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<p>Please provide a comprehensive link of the U calculating that no., or at least referencing this 85% acceptance rate. I’d like to see the nos. especially wrt the denominator. What is it 20 applicants, or 17/20? </p>

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<p>Please provide a link showing the rise in premed nos. Anecdotal ‘evidence’ is not evidence at all.</p>

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<p>The competition is undoubtedly very stiff in CA. However, we know that most UCLA bac holders who apply to … will be attending m-school oos. You’re not providing any info here, that I haven’t already stated in our conversations. Suddenly you’ve gotten braver in presenting the whole idea that Bama is some wonderful premed institution.</p>

<p>Thanks for the input but just so you guys know, like I previously stated, I’m more of a humanities kid looking to go to law school- not med school.</p>

<p>I am so sorry, kid; I was so intent on answering mom2collegekids, I bypassed your initial post. At UCLA, humanities -> law is a highly common occurrence. Ask beyphy, how many of his fellow philosophy majors decided on l-school. UCLA produces the most attys in CA according to Calbar (I forgot the link), but here are the nos., according to undergrad inst: </p>

<p>1 Univ of California at Los Angeles; CA 21,006 8.65 %
2 Univ of California Berkeley; Berkeley CA 18,558 7.65 %
3 Univ of Southern Calif; Los Angeles CA 7,573 3.12 %
4 Univ of California Santa Barbara; CA 7,210 2.97 %
5 Stanford Univ; Stanford CA 7,011 2.89 %
6 Univ of California Davis; Davis CA 5,844 2.41 %
7 Univ of California San Diego; La Jolla CA 5,397 2.22 %
8 Univ of California Irvine; Irvine CA 4,518 1.86 %
9 San Diego State Univ; San Diego CA 3,485 1.44 %
10 California St Univ Northridge; CA 3,457 1.42 %
11 California St Univ Long Beach; CA 2,720 1.12 %
12 Harvard Univ; Cambridge MA 2,493 1.03 %
13 Univ of California Santa Cruz; CA 2,463 1.01 %
14 Yale Univ; New Haven CT 2,440 1.01 %
15 Santa Clara Univ; Santa Clara CA 2,347 0.97 %
16 Brigham Young Univ; Provo UT 2,336 0.96 %
17 California St Univ Fullerton; CA 2,221 0.91 %
18 San Francisco State Unv; San Francisco CA 2,130 0.88 %
19 California St Univ Sacramento; CA 2,048 0.84 %
20 San Jose State Univ; San Jose CA 1,959 0.81 %</p>

<p>The prelaw society at UCLA is also one of the best in the nation, and also one of the biggest groups on campus. Nightly meetings have all the representatives of the major l-schools in the nation.</p>

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<p>Around half the people in the philosophy major were pre-law. Most of the people in my class took time off I think, myself included (no one’s in a rush to go to law/grad. school when employment prospects are terrible.) </p>

<p>A person I knew in the major very indirectly (never spoke to but had a class with) got into Yale law; another girl I know got into UCLA law, but she majored in classics which has insane grade inflation (most writing majors average 3.2 GPAs; classics is 3.5-3.6) </p>

<p>Philosophy’s a good pre-law major. They have the second highest lsat score (tied with economics) after math/physics majors. And UCLA’s philosophy department is top notch.</p>

<p>Given that I wasn’t pre-law, I can’t tell you about the quality of any of the programs, but I do work at a law firm. around 4 or 5 attorneys went to UCLA, including one of the senior partners, with another two on the way after they finish Lschool/pass the bar.</p>

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<p>That may be true in California, but it’s not true for graduates of the University of Alabama Law School, 96% of whom are employed within 9 months of graduation. I realize the OP is asking about undergraduate choices, but since he (she?) is considering law school and possibly living in North Carolina, a little future planning and consideration won’t hurt. It’s never too early to begin networking.</p>

<p>UA Law is a top tier school (not my opinion; you can look it up at top-law-schools.com: [The</a> University of Alabama School of Law](<a href=“http://www.top-law-schools.com/alabama-school-of-law.html]The”>The University of Alabama School of Law - TLS wiki)). It’s affordable, its students pass the bar at a near-100% rate, and they get jobs.</p>

<p>Here’s a nice video on the school:</p>

<p>[The</a> University of Alabama School of Law - YouTube](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kiFdyxeVrUU]The”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kiFdyxeVrUU)</p>

<p>Again, to the OP, you’ll do fine at either UCLA or Alabama. You are blessed with great choices. Don’t be frightened by the fear mongers or the uninformed.</p>

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<p>It has been shown time and time again that these law school statistics are scewed. Most schools (probably including alabama) count ANY employment, from Big Law to bartender as “being employed” not only that but many schools hire their own law graduates who weren’t able to find jobs at a low salary to raise their employment statistics (see Temple). Combine that with the fact that not even T14 graduates (See Northwestern) can find jobs and it is almost certain that most Alabama law school graduates are NOT doing what they were hoping to be doing.</p>

<p>Congratulations! Great choices for the next four years of your life! So many pplz say try something different for college so Bama would be a change of pace… I really love Ucla, but I considered Rice as a great option too… If U are really into football, UCLA playing at the Rose Bowl every other week is pretty awesome… UCLA is number 1 in FOOD no doubt, plus Westwood is full of amazing options too! Betting Bama has BBQ that’s pretty great tho! Good luck!</p>

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<p>I think Alabama has a football team too. Their games might be fun.</p>

<p>^^^…and they play on campus, not 25 miles away through grueling traffic. </p>

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<p>^^^that made me laugh,chardo.</p>

<p>LoL yes being #1 has its Advantages… My dad dragged me through SEC country a few years ago & Alabama, Auburn, Gtech, and UGA stadiums as well as school sprit was awesome to behold! Emory was very nice too… Just sayin that with well over 100 NCAA championships U will not want for cheering opportunities @ Ucla but will have to drive to Pasadena & the Rose Bowl for Football! Worth it tho!</p>