<p>In the interest of fairness, please respond to these stats posted on another site:</p>
<p>"acceptance rate in the mid 60s </p>
<p>according to USNWR UMichs SAT spread via ACT conversion is 1180-1340 </p>
<p>the 1220-1420 figure given in UMich publications represents a minority of its students. Those not from the midwest who submit SATs over ACTs. These students are in general better qualified than the typical UMich student. Therefore, the 1180-1340 spread is a more accurate snapshot of UMich's freshman classes. "</p>
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<p>Define what you mean by "minority". Among the freshman class enrolled in Fall 2004, 58% submitted their SAT scores while 67% submitted their ACT scores.</p>
<p>Michigan counts your highest score in a single sitting; not your highest subscores. In the interest of fairness, how many points would you attribute to that factor?</p>
<p>Furthermore, Michigan counts GPA more than test scores. If you are instate with 3.9 GPA or higher, would you bother to spend money and retake your ACT the second time? 44.4% of the freshman class has 3.9 GPA or higher (unweighted). In the interest of fairness, how many points would you attribute to that factor?</p>
<p>I am not at my office to check these stats, but I'm pretty sure it's a falsehood that the SATs are provided by "a minority" of students. I think GoBlue has it right--58% sounds accurate. </p>
<p>What agenda does that site have? It has a point that not everyone submits SATs, but to suggest that this represents a minority of students is, well, total crap. I also don't understand the sentence "those are not from the midwest who submit SATs over ACTs." I think they've got it a little backwards--generally, students from the Midwest tend to take (and submit) ACT over SAT (although many midwestern students of the calibre Michigan admits take both). Sounds like the website is trying to sound all-knowing and like it has inside information, and just fell flat on its face. LOL</p>
<p>You might very well be right hoedown. I was just searching for accurate information. I certainly do not have an agenda and am seriously considering U of Michigan on my list. I think it has a great mix of social and academic variables. My sole concern deals with the student: teacher ratio and class size vs private universities. I have heard that there are more TAs involved in teaching and some huge courses. Also, as with other large research universities, how much undergrad focus is there?</p>
<p>Hannibal, I've posted this about a million times, but people don't seem to read I guess. Umich does not have a "grad focus". I've never felt slighted by the university or felt that the graduate students were more important than myself. The undergrads get a ton of attention around here and never once have I had any sort of issue with feeling like I got the shaft because of my status here.</p>
<p>Yes, I'm in the honors college, but I'm not really sure that would affect it. How about this. You give me some way that the university could demonstrate that it has a "grad focus" and I'll tell you how accurate it is. Because it really seems to me that this having a "grad focus" is largely abstract and something people make up to make schools sound crappy, because I don't even know what having a grad focus would even look like. I think all universities care about their undergrads and aren't going to treat them like second-class citizens.</p>