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unless she's one of those ideal submissive, super-shy european brunette or african princess.
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Ahehe, what is that supposed to mean? I think that's sweet that you idealize an "african princess". I've never... well, I don't USUALLY hear people say that.</p>
<p>Kathos is different than me. I am sweet with all my friends and I don't give any more eye contact... maybe even less since I am nervous. I am always willing to sit and listen, so no clue there. The biggest clue for me is that I brighten up when I see you. I know girls can notice when I like a guy because they notice my face brightens up. I don't know if boys can notice.</p>
<p>"a girl can like u only if she talks to u directly...unless she's one of those ideal submissive, super-shy european brunette or african princess."</p>
<p>Wow, that isn't chauvinistic at all. Good luck getting a girl with that attitude - the only reason why she would stay with you is that she doesn't have the self-esteem to leave.</p>
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If she's willing to sit and listen to you talk about something she wouldn't otherwise be interested in (e.g. sports maybe?), she probably likes you.
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<p>Yep, but the best things to listen to are details about stuff they're really in to (especially when I don't know too much about it...I like being able to learn from others), fun stories about family and close friends (it has alway gone over well when I recalled small things about them when we finally did meet), and what they want out of life (similar goals and views on family/work and traveling is very important to me, so yeah).</p>
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Kathos is different than me. I am sweet with all my friends and I don't give any more eye contact... maybe even less since I am nervous. I am always willing to sit and listen, so no clue there. The biggest clue for me is that I brighten up when I see you. I know girls can notice when I like a guy because they notice my face brightens up. I don't know if boys can notice.
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<p>I'm not saying that I'm mean to my friends and don't listen to them, but platonic relationships are just different for me. It may be due to some bad experiences I've had with close friends in the past, but I just don't open up nearly as much with them...so I guess the best way to describe how I am with friends vs a boyfriend or guy I'm seeing is that I'm much softer and vulnerable with the guy I'm dating.</p>
Wow, that isn't chauvinistic at all. Good luck getting a girl with that attitude - the only reason why she would stay with you is that she doesn't have the self-esteem to leave.
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What? Alright, how about the girl just as a personality of submissive and shyness? Are you saying there is something wrong with her? I am offended.</p>
<p>Someone earlier said that it's not about what she says but how she acts. I don't that's always true. Sometimes what she says can be a clue. if she compliments you a lot, that's a good sign...especially if she compliments you on how you look.</p>
<p>"What? Alright, how about the girl just as a personality of submissive and shyness? Are you saying there is something wrong with her? I am offended."</p>
<p>Are you submissive and shy as well? Or do you want her to be submissive and shy so that you can be the dominant figure in the relationship?</p>
<p>^ i'm personally offended or terrified by women who are really independent and outgoing. german or northern european women are famous for being scary... so yeah..i prefer the realtionship where the man is dominant, but i myself am not really a domineering person. usually, it's the asian (all of them from middle-eastern to far eastern), african and southern european women who i would have confortable realtionship with...i could idealize u know!!</p>
<p>Well, good for you. Work on that self-confidence. </p>
<p>"^ i'm personally offended or terrified by women who are really independent and outgoing. german or northern european women are famous for being scary... so yeah..i prefer the realtionship where the man is dominant, but i myself am not really a domineering person. usually, it's the asian (all of them from middle-eastern to far eastern), african and southern european women who i would have confortable realtionship with...i could idealize u know!!"</p>
<p>I would love it if a guy on here would start an "ideal woman" thread since you have an "ideal man" thread going.</p>
<p>"Work on my self-confidence? Has it ever occurred to you that maybe I am happy with the way I am?"</p>
<p>Yes, but there is always room for improvement. </p>
<p>I've already seen the ideal man thread. There is nothing wrong with it. I would just like to hear the guys' views on their "ideal woman." However, there doesn't seem to be that many guys on here.</p>
<p>there is never room for improvement, at least for me. the only thing that i can make myself more worthy is by quietly suffering the neglect, rejection, physical pains, starvation, weeping alone and lost in the memory of past happiness...like a cast-away lonely romantic hero..</p>
<p>Some people are just the shy and submissive type...it takes all kinds, leave them be. Besides, I'd have to kill someone if everyone was very forceful and opinionated. </p>
<p>I'm sort of passive, myself...just depends on the situation.</p>
<p>normally for me i won't "act" differently around him but I will go out of my way more to do this. I don't know how to describe it</p>
<p>i won't talk to him more just because i'm weird like that. but let's say he invites me to go somewhere. Unless my arm gets cut off and i'm bleeding to death, i'll make every effort to go to that place with him.</p>
<p>i think you should ask her to do something (very casually, with a group) and see if she seems excited or not. if not, move on. but if she's all like freaking out getting overly excited, then a good chance she likes you!</p>
<p>also, a lot of hair flipping and lip gloss applying? lol i dunno</p>
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i won't talk to him more just because i'm weird like that. but let's say he invites me to go somewhere. Unless my arm gets cut off and i'm bleeding to death, i'll make every effort to go to that place with him.
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Yes, me too... I make every effort to go anywhere he wants to go.</p>
<p>However, how can a boy know that you put this much effort into it? He can't. But if he could see it, then he would know you like him for sure.</p>
<p>I do not think she will start freaking out with excitement o_o Is that what you do?</p>
<p>"i think you should ask her to do something (very casually, with a group) and see if she seems excited or not. if not, move on. but if she's all like freaking out getting overly excited, then a good chance she likes you!"</p>