<p>It looks like the process is over. As a second year applicant, I was denied nomination to USNA. The spokesperson from both offices told me that I was one of the most qualified applicants but I did not have a US citizenship (although I'll get it in March) and they said there was NO exception to the rule. I decided I really don't have 2 years to spare to lose for USNA c/o 2011 and I dropped my case to the USNA. Thanks guys and you were lots of help!</p>
<p>cheers. you had a great run.</p>
<p>Sorry to hear the news green09. Good Luck to what the future may bring you and remember you'll always have our support.</p>
<p>Ahh...your still a young pup. Giving up the ship? Nah...you'll be back and we will all be better for it! Good Luck in any case!</p>
<p>Never give up.</p>
<p>green,</p>
<p>Are they able to keep your file open until March after you become a citizen?</p>
<p>The one who wins is the one who gives up last. Keep at it if this is what you want. If, however, you decide to move on, all the best to you in that endeavor, too.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>if you get your citizenship in March and you are a highly qualified candidate don't give up your dream. It takes a certain level of honor, commitment, dedication and drive to want to attend the Academy. You should keep trying and not give up your goal. I know it seems like it's not going to work out but maybe next year you will receive a nomination and you will be accepted. I agree with everyone else Don't Give up the Ship!</p>
<p>Hey greenie...never ever give up if that's what you want. Here's the rub. Apply right now for the Vice Presidential nomination. If you are indeed highly qualified as soon as you get your citizenship certificate send it in. If they want you you'll get the VP nom, Supt's spot or perhaps a nom spot from a congressionman in a totally different state (you'll never know which one) OR they may even offer you NAPS if it's really too late and it is never too late.</p>
<p>I had classmates that went to college for two years and then entered USNA. I had to get a Certificate of Citizenship to get in and don't really know the current process but I would make some calls and see if you can't speed up that process. I remember it not taking more than a month or two.</p>
<p>I also didn't receive an appointment until mid-May so its not over until you throw the towel in...if it's what you want...don't. I would also write to the Admission's Office and let them know your situation and see if they can shed any light for you. Best of luck.</p>
<p>Green- allow yourself on day to feel completedy miserable and sorry for yourself. One day, 24 hours, that's it. When that day is over, pick yourself up, dust yourself off, go out for a good run to get those endorphins going and then follow that good avice everyone above this has been giving you. Sometimes you just have to take the shot. Best of luck!</p>
<p>Green09-I'm chiming in too. If you have worked so long and so hard so far....Can't you wait until at least THIS cycle of appointments are set in stone before dropping the process????????????????</p>
<p>Thanks everyone for your condolences. I think I still will go ahead and apply for VP nomination since I've got absolutely nothing to lose (although the deadline is March 1st and I don't know if I'll have it by then) and I haven't retracted my application or anything. If anything else, I still have NROTC.</p>
<p>navy2010--
That's exactly what I did when I got turned down last year...I went out to the track and just beat myself into exhaustion. The next day, I sent in my Prelim app for c/o 2010.</p>
<p>green09--
A friend of mine (USNA c/o '05) said that the brigade commander had applied 3 times before he finally got appointed...don't give in now...if anything, the Academy will view your persistence as admirable...which is always a good thing.</p>
<p>"Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never, in nothing, great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense."
--Winston Churchill</p>
<p>Green09: good for you- glad to hear you will be going after it. Best of luck!</p>
<p>Green09 - here is another Winston Churchill quote:
"SUCCESS is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiam"</p>
<p>Hang in there!!</p>
<p>green09 - As I read the requirements below, one has to be a citizen by July 1st of the year of admission.
<a href="http://hulshof.house.gov/ConstituentServices.aspx?Section=11%5B/url%5D">http://hulshof.house.gov/ConstituentServices.aspx?Section=11</a></p>
<p>Basic Eligibility Requirements
As per the requirements of the military academies, candidates must meet the following requirements as of July 1st of the year of admission:
Must be at least 17 years of age, but not have passed one`s 22nd birthday.
Must be a United States citizen.
Must be a legal resident of Missouri Ninth Congressional District.
Must be unmarried, not pregnant, and have no legal obligation to support children or other dependents. </p>
<p>From one of your previous posts you said you had a nomination to the USMMA, but declined it because you were only applying to the Naval Academy. Why are the senators applying different rules for different academies. It doesn't sound right to me.
How do you know that you will get your citizenship in March? Is that when your interview is, or is that when your oath ceremony is scheduled?
Good luck!</p>
<p>Yup, that's totally true.
The senator who gave me nomination to USMMA didn't ask me ANY questions regarding the citizenship status. He simply assumed I had one, and gave me a nomination.
The other senator and congressman both asked me if I had a citizenship and I told them I would get them at March AT THE LATEST. Both congressmen sent me rejection letters a DAY after giving me the call on citizenship. I asked them why, and they cited the citizenship excuse. I also know that I'll get it in march because I specifically spoke to INS and wrote on the form that I'm a service academy applicant and they put me on special pile and that's what they told me. Hope that clears up some stuff.</p>
<p>green09: Hmmm...
"The senator who gave me nomination to USMMA didn't ask me ANY questions regarding the citizenship status. He simply assumed I had one, and gave me a nomination."</p>
<p>Most senators require that you be a citizen when you apply for your nomination. That is Senator Talent's requirement. I didn't check the others.
<a href="http://talent.senate.gov/MediaFiles/pdf/AcademyApplication.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://talent.senate.gov/MediaFiles/pdf/AcademyApplication.pdf</a></p>
<p>If you applied and did not address the issue up front, the assumption would be that you met the application requirements and were a citizen. I could see how it would be a problem if you only revealed your citizeship status after the fact. You did this 2 years in a row??</p>
<p>"I also know that I'll get it in march because I specifically spoke to INS and wrote on the form that I'm a service academy applicant and they put me on special pile and that's what they told me."</p>
<p>The road to citizenship is not that simple. They may have fast tracked you, but until all of your eligibility and background checks have been completed, and you have passed your interview (and civics and English test), nobody can guarantee when your citizenship will be approved. </p>
<p>Good luck with the process! It sounds as if you may still have some options.</p>
<p>Ann - another Missourian? There are like 5 of us on this forum!! I got Talent's letter today - he took the longest of our 3 MOC</p>
<p>marmadillo-i got one from talent today too. i wonder how many people he already has at the academy if he's nominating both of us. interesting...</p>