All UVa frats on suspension

<p>UVA has 60 Greek houses, and non-Greeks often have trouble keeping the letters straight for all of them, which is why I don’t necessarily think Jackie intended to mislead on the name of the house, IF she even named it for the article. RS has no excuse however, to misapply the incident to Phi Psi, if they couldn’t verify it. They could have easily written the entire article as is without naming any particular fraternity.</p>

<p>There is some chance that the whole truth was there, and more. The “and more” creates problems, and its part of what, I presume, you learn not to do in journalism school, or on the job. UVa should take some time to make a measured response to this new development. I’m not sure they did that the first time.</p>

<p>Unless all the other women at UVA, and elsewhere, who have come forward in the wake of this story are liars, it’s pretty clear that rape and sexual assault on campus at UVA, and elsewhere, is a significant problem. It would truly be a shame if the shoddy journalism that Rolling Stone seems to be guilty of in this case allows the naysayers, as we’re already seeing in this thread, to say, “See, I told you so. There’s no problem here and we can all go back to business as usual.” This is an issue that needs to stay front and center, and needs to be addressed, regardless of whatever may or may not have happened to Jackie.</p>

<p>I will be shocked if we don’t get a lot more information now. </p>

<p><a href=“A Note to Our Readers – Rolling Stone”>http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/a-note-to-our-readers-20141205&lt;/a&gt;
WOW, this is terrible… They have really gone down hill. I was originally disgusted when they put the Boston Marathon bomber on the cover and now this. SMH</p>

<p>The photo of this house was posted on media across the country for weeks. It is the house in the most prominent and most visible location in town. If she had the wrong greek letters, there was plenty of time to correct that, before the brothers living inside were chased out of town.</p>

<p>Right, the truth is incidental to the bigger problem which is what the advocacy writer also believes. Sorry, but if specifics are addressed in what’s called investigative reporting they need to exist. Especially, when the allegations are criminal. This kind of thing does not help the cause and this is finally a case where that big picture thinking failed massively. </p>

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<p>No one said that. Stop exaggerating.</p>

<p>So at the time this happened, she didn’t take the trouble to even find out where this guy lived? When I went to school a couple decades back there was a Campus Directory. Do they not have that anymore?</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/u-va-fraternity-to-rebut-claims-of-gang-rape-in-rolling-stone/2014/12/05/5fa5f7d2-7c91-11e4-84d4-7c896b90abdc_story.html”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/u-va-fraternity-to-rebut-claims-of-gang-rape-in-rolling-stone/2014/12/05/5fa5f7d2-7c91-11e4-84d4-7c896b90abdc_story.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>“UVA has 60 Greek houses, and non-Greeks often have trouble keeping the letters straight for all of them, which is why I don’t necessarily think Jackie intended to mislead on the name of the house, IF she even named it for the article.”</p>

<p>That was my first thought too, to be honest. Why would a non-Greek really distinguish between Phi Kappa Psi and Phi Kappa Sigma and Phi Delta Theta and blah blah blah. </p>

<p><a href=“Rolling Stone apologizes for 'discrepancies' in UVA rape story”>http://news.yahoo.com/rolling-stone-uva-rape-story-retraction-180722194.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I am disappointed that the administration was so gullible also. It only furthers the call that rapes must be dealt with in court, with due process. The president and all down the line were sucked into a PC vortex, willing to condemn all fraternities without a scintilla of proof.</p>

<p>this is looking like a HOAX, rolling stone screwed up! I hope they get sued and actually are forced to pay massive money! they allowed a political agenda to trump the truth and it really hurt a lot of people.</p>

<p>The administration was restraining themselves. They realized more needed to be done to address the problem, and were doing it. However, they felt a need to not make public comments that would have questioned the victim’s account. They knew that what Jenny had told RS didn’t match what she had previously told the U. </p>

<p>“This institution will be based on the illimitable freedom of the human mind, for here we are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate any error so long as reason is left free to combat it.”</p>

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<li>Thomas Jefferson, 1820, describing the University that he had just founded </li>
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<p>I feel the glass parts were the tell that the story was embellished at the very least. The RS author seemed to be obsessed with glass in her article. Glass table, glass shards, bottle rammed, bottle thrown….</p>

<p>Of course as a freshman it would be easy to confuse fraternities. BUT! I would think if you’d just been raped at one, you’d check back to see which house it was. The guy who was her date for the evening wasn’t part of the gang who assaulted her, so why not ask HIM which house it was? Anyway, if unsure, why GUESS???</p>

<p>There’s this from the WaPo article:</p>

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<p>Too lazy to go back (on phone), but I think one of the articles says that Jackie’s friend pointed to the house at some later date and said to her " that’s where it happened" or something like that. If true, then not even Jackie had first hand knowledge of where it all occurred. </p>

<p>Shockingly, the Washington Post didn’t swallow Jackie’s story, hook, line and sinker. They actually interviewed her friends, roommates and dozens of members of the fraternity! (sarcasm)</p>

<p>It sounds like Jackie didn’t want to go to UVa. She wanted to go to Brown or another Ivy League school but her parents couldn’t afford it. She then takes out her anger over that on UVa.</p>