All UVa frats on suspension

<p>Rolling Stone should pay for the damage done to the Phi Psi house at the very least. And Jackie should be brought up before the honor code board. </p>

<p>I think RS should pay. I think Jackie needs counseling more than honor code proceedings. </p>

<p>Not surprised. More journalists who “want to make a difference”. </p>

<p>This is really good to hear. “Jackie” deserves criminal action for what she put everybody at Phi Kappa Psi through. She deserves to be punished. </p>

<p>This is really good to hear. “Jackie” deserves criminal action for what she put everybody at Phi Kappa Psi through. She deserves to be punished. </p>

<p>I vote for punishing RS, not Jackie. They are supposed to be sophisticated, responsible journalists and have deep pockets.</p>

<p>There are just so many sensational seeking ‘journalists’ out there who expect that their stories will be believed because they fit into the agenda they want. She could have chosen a story in which perps were convicted to make her point about rape on campus. Or at least one in which the perps were arrested on probable cause, like the story I posted above about William Paterson University. But not as juicy as accusing a fraternity at a prestigious university. </p>

<p>The writer should never work in ‘journalism’ again. </p>

<p>I don’t want to trash Jackie because I don’t know her story and I already put my foot in my mouth.</p>

<p>RS is a different story. I liked their reporting during the financial crisis. I am glad RS brought the rape issue up, but…
they were not accurate. Not good. Very very bad.</p>

<p>This is a mess. But, not a surprise. And, I don’t think Jackie did it. According to CNN Jackie is standing by her story and has been interviewed by WAPO so that’s the next chapter. Now, what I think happened here is that Jackie told her story which I do believe exists but the author embellished it to hit all of the hot button issues, and screwed it up. Also, they said drew has been identified but is not a frat boy and there was no party that night and there’s no back staircase in that house, for easy starters.</p>

<p>HOLY MOLEY</p>

<p>The very valuable lesson this debacle drives home to college students and everyone else. Be skeptical of everything you read. Some were willing to suspend that rule because they wanted to believe the story was true due to preconceived prejudices. </p>

<p>There were a lot of you taking this whole story at face value from the beginning and piling on UVa., as if this was not a national conversation that needed to be had.</p>

<p>“When I think back through the whole complex history of this episode, the scariest thing to me is that actual human lives were at the mercy of so much instant moral certainty, before the facts had been established. If there’s one lesson the world should take from the Duke lacrosse case, it’s the danger of prejudgment and our need to defend against it at every turn.”</p>

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<li>Duke University President Richard Brodhead, 2007.</li>
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<p>This is going to be a case study in journalism schools for many years to come.</p>

<p>I’d say 50/50 at least. Jackie wanted to hurt Phi Kappa Psi and that’s exactly what she did. The house was vandalized and the reputation was tarnished </p>

<p>I am reading that there are discrepancies in the story as reported not that Jackie was not raped. She appears to be standing by her account but was mistaken that he was a member of that fraternity. But she is maintaining that is where the rape took place. Hopefully they will continue to investigate and get some real facts out there.</p>

<p>It will be very interesting if a Honor Code violation is filed. It can be done by any current student.</p>

<p>In one of the worst cases of a student lying to the media, the liar got his UVa Law School diploma. A law student alleged that a University Police Officer was engaged in all kinds of racist conduct. The student then admitted he made the whole story up. A student did file Honor Charges against him, but he was not found guilty. It did apparently take him a couple years to be admitted to the Bar after graduation.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.readthehook.com/90487/whyd-he-lie-law-students-false-racial-accusation-rile”>http://www.readthehook.com/90487/whyd-he-lie-law-students-false-racial-accusation-rile&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I think RS wanted to hurt Phi Psi more than Jackie did. I still think Jackie was probably raped. But RS wanted to stick it to the man by naming Phi Psi without verifying.</p>

<p>She loses all credibility. I will not believe anything she says after deliberately lying. She affected so many people with her lies. She made every fraternity member (including me) look bad. </p>

<p>We don’t even know that Jackie mentioned the frat though. She may not have. That’s the problem with the writing style. Its not clear what’s fact and what’s Jackie’s story and what’s embellishment. But, it was always clear that we were reading a mish-mash of the three to a discerning reader which is unfortunately not most people.</p>

<p>I was suspect from the first reading that the whole truth was in there. </p>