Alternatives

<p>I'd like to hear from those who have chosen to do things other than BFA program.</p>

<p>I know there is at least one person who has written about D who did not get in first time around but tried again the year after. I'd like to hear about your experiences.</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>My D auditioned for several BFA MT programs without success. After much soul-searching, came to the conclusion that she was not so certain that at BFA was the way to go for her. She feels like she has so much to learn, but not only in MT. Decided to look at BA programs and has decided on a BA Theatre program at a school that she really loved - even though she was not enthralled with, or accepted into, their BFA MT program. Since making that decision, she is happy again! Time will tell if it was the right decision, but for now it appears to be. We discussed the option of taking a year and devoting it to lessons/training with the goal of re-auditioning for next fall, but it just wasn't the right thing for her. She is definitely ready to go off to college and would leave tomorrow if that were an option!</p>

<p>There are a number of kids who are MT or bust. They have applied only to MT programs, and if they do not get in, they will work on their auditions somewhere and try again. Some will get into their favorite programs, others into programs less known but they are bound and determined to get that BFA in MT, and to get it in a program where the scheduling is completely set towards this goal. Some of these kids are "done" with school or rather, the more academic part of school. They will study dramatic works and other subjects just as demanding, in many ways more so, but they would just as soon skip the science, even the old "Rocks for Jocks" and take minimal traditional subjects. In a sense, that is what I felt my son wanted to do, as he was and is so done with school. I am more than a bit worried about how he will perform in an academic atmosphere as it seems as though his brain has turned off in that area, whereas on stage and regarding any production is is very "on". </p>

<p>However, during the audition process, my S and several other kids also looking at programs that demanded an audition or portfolio began to go a beyond the curriculum that they felt they wanted. Other things about their future home became as important. There are kids that would rather be at Ithaca in a MT program, than HPY studying theatre within a university setting. It turned out S was not one of those. The turning point came at one particular school where I was taking some of his classmates to a lovely LAC not far from where S was audtioning, and the contrast between the two schools and programs had him thinking about how he really wanted to live. Vassar was his only non audition school, which we visited the next day, and he loved it. Several other kids he knew, some very talented and accepted at programs at Ithaca, Emerson, Harrt, Penn State decided instead to jump at the Williams phone call, Dartmouth likely letter and are waiting with breath held for their also highly selective non auditon schools for their decisions. An old friend of mine with whom I just spent the week in Pittsburgh has a son who has gone down the audition trail, and things did not look so good for him at the first of the year which put off our trip to visit two ailing friends in Pittsburgh, as she and her son added some schools to the list and ended up doing two terms of auditions including the Unifieds. Well, the acceptances have been rolling in now, and he may well end up at American at the BA program as it is the total package, school, name recognition, environment, city, students , etc that he likes best. He is not so sure he wants to go the way of some of the schools where he has been accepted though the MT programs are good. No final decisions yet, but they are definitley leaning towards a BA type program and like some of the kids S knows, and like S, it is not because he does not have the choice. This choice does not arise for those who did not apply to any non MT/non audition schools, and for them it is either try again next year if things don't pan out, look for some open programs, many added walk ins at Unifieds and are checking out schools with BFA programs that they had not heard of , but for them it is better to go to any school that has these specific courses and performances, as they do not want to go to a traditional college. MT is the route they want to take and that is all they want to do.Many of the more competitive MT programs really have a stronger emphasis on the gpa and test scores than they like to say. And with as many kids auditoning, they can afford to cull that way even just using an "all things equal" view on the academics. For academics to count even just 10% is alot when you have that many talented kids for so few spots. So some of those very talented kids who have lower academic profiles may have to look at programs where it is not such an issue. S's friends who have gotten into some of these programs, though talented, are not as into the MT or acting scene as many of the kids on this board. But with close to 1500 SATs and high gpas, from a top highschool, they seem to be getting into more than their share of the programs despite an ambivalence towards the whole thing. It is just another option for them, and most of them will end up at a highly selective BA program with theatre as a side item for them. S's advisor and college counselor both told us from the onset that though a number of kids from his school are accepted each year at audition programs, a goodly percentage of them end up at more traditional schools in the end when all factors are considered. So it is happening with S as well. </p>

<p>Both S's advisior (MFA Yale, BA Harvard) and the director that he is working with (BA Columbia, further studies in England and he is a regular director at a theatre in NYC), went the traditional BA route for college and went more heavily into the arts thereafter. Both seem to have a pretty strong presence in the arts. For those who are ready to jump right into a BFA program that is so overwhelmingly about MT, it is a fine route. Why do time at something else when you know what you want to do? But many kids still have those antennas up and are sniffing the air for oppotunities in other fields as well, though they certainly want to spend a goodly time working in the performing arts. There are a number of alternatives for them as well. It's not just the kids who are NOT gettting into these programs that are going the BA route. CMU which is one of the top MT programs loses kids to other disciplines despite the highly selective process they have to undergo. So does Michigan. Some go on to other performance activities, yes, but some choose Harvard or Swarthmore instead after weighing all things into the equation. If your D ends up at American and if my friend's son ends up there as well, which is a distinct possiblity, she will meet someone with several MT BFA options that chose that school over them. And I think you may even know the young man as it seems like their audition dates and locations were the same, including the Unifieds. Very talented, great resume and a tremendous voice, many options.</p>

<p>Hi, Newmtmom, I am back on this thread as I hate to mix modes and have hijacked more than my share of threads. From reading about what has been going on with your D, I just want to let you know what I know about Drake where your daughter has been accepted. I do not know your D and did not meet either of you, as S's audition schedule was not the same as yours though some of the schools overlap.</p>

<p>Drake is a considered an excellent LAC in Iowa. I believe USN&WR puts in the catergory of colleges that give masters. I have met a number of gifted writers from Iowa, some of whom did their undergraduate studies at Coe, Cornell or Drake and then went on to Iowa City to Uof I. The drama department has been around for nearly 80 years there at Drake and is considered very good, as is their MT department. I do not know how the two departments intermingle and what opportunities are available to which but it seems to me at most schools, they work together to a large degree, and you always have to pay a separate fee for private voice anyways, so if you throw that in for your D, she is likely to get a similar curriculum. You should call and check this specifially and get the hard copy of their catalogue as well. The biggest drawback to Drake is that is is not well know outside of its area, and most of us come from that densely populated NE cluster. I think it would be an wonderful experience for your D to go to a school like Drake and get her training there. I think she will be well taught, and get more attention and opportunities than at some of the larger programs where it can get very much dog eat dog. To be at the tail end of such programs can be intimidating and humiilating, and if she wants performance oppotunities they are not necessarily the best places to go. DesMoine is the capital of Iowa and a nice sized town and on 80 a bit of a distance away is the U of Iowa in Iowa City that has some of the best summer workships in theatre in the country. A number of S's teachers have really wanted him to partake in them, and we know a number of teachers and kids who have done them. U of Iowa is well known for this program. I suggest taking a peek at what is there for this summer. </p>

<p>If she does not like this alternative,which I truly believe will be something she will like if she gives it a fair go, there are other alternatives available. Ohio Wesleyan offers an internship program that places kids in places like NYC actings studios (like Lee strasberg) and the gives them college credit for this, and they can then go on to OW for their theatre program which is very good as well. I don't think this is a school you checked out, and it does have some great opportunities. Or you can just do the internship program and then transfer, reauditioning after taking the theatre classes that first year. Butler College in Indianapolis is another example of a program that is outstanding but not given much press--their lyric opera program is well known in that city and the performing arts are first rate. College of Santa Fe is another gem that gives some excellent performance opportunities early in a town of artists, and personal attention. Their performance of "Proof" was as good as any I had seen. If you go to the old archives, our Peggy went through a tough stretch with her D last year and she found a place in Milliken at the 11th hour, and from her posts this year, it is working out very well. There are a number of programs that are not on the radar screens that are producing some wonderful performers. Some of these kids have just not yet made the decision to go into the field, they are not as focused yet, but when they get the opportunity, they shine. The audition process is filled primarily with kids and parents who are very much in the know of what to do. And though this board is great, there is a lot that goes into the process in highschool programs, audition practice, private teachers for many of these kids. My son has had a lot of training over years, and specifically focused on these audtions, yet he was no shoo in. For kids not quite ready for the intensity of all of this, some of the lesser known programs are perfect places to get those wings ready to fly. Continuing to a MFA or transferring are both options, and it is often easier to transfer from a small not as well known program than from a known entity. My son's friend did not get into any of her audition schools a few years ago--she did transfer in to Tisch after getting terrific grades and focusing on audition skills and pieces at a LAC with a theatre program. She did not have the grades and test scores to get into Tisch initially, but as a transfer that did not count as heavily as college grades are the main focus then. That and the understandable desire to transfer from a small LAC in a tiny town with a small theatre program to a school like Tisch. That tiny dept honed her skills to a point where she was Tisch material with attention difficult to get in some of these highprofile schools where you may well be the set crew for the first few year with a broom in hand. </p>

<p>There are a number of programs where I would be hesitant to think about sending a young highschool graduate who needs to mature and get her theatre and voice skills polished, but Drake, and any of the other ones mentioned are not in that category. I think if she goes there, she will find a lot to learn, and much support in learning it to take the next step. I have known several Drake students and they seem to be quite prepared. </p>

<p>I am sorry about the American situation. They had a record number of applicants this year, and it was tough going there for kids who thought they were matches. I would talk to the Drama/MT head and see if anything can possibly be done if that is a preferred choice. But I do believe a transfer from Drake is a better possibilty than from American, and Drake does have an established program which is more prioritized within the school. My friend's son who was accepted there is probably going to go to Buffalo instead because he felt the program was a start up there and they were learning as they go whereas he want to be taught straight away. The best thing about the program is that it is housed in school with good name recognition. I think as far as making the next step artistically, Drake is the better choice. Take care, and do keep us posted. Also, you are not alone. Out of the thousand or so kids on the audition circuit, most are making compromise decisions on what they thought they wanted. Sometimes, it is the better choice all around, though the dashing of expectations is painful. The time, money and agony were not a waste, as the experience gained is truly priceless, and something you need in some form or other to get through this journey.</p>

<p>Hi all,</p>

<p>Thought I'd put my two cents in here. My D is a junior at a performing arts high school and is already very aware of the competitiveness. So her plan, if she's not accepted as an MT major, is to major in Arts Administration. It's called several things..Entertainment Business, Theatre Management and I now have a list of about 45 schools. The interesting part of this is some great MT schools - Ithaca and Oklahoma City are two - also have good Arts Admin programs. Some programs require you to minor in an artistic area as well. Just a thought, as I was completely unaware of this major until her Musical Theater/Stage Management teacher told her about it.</p>

<p>Jamimom, thanks so much for your input. I really appreciate it. My D is convinced that it can't be a good program because there's no audition. We're going to insist she go visit. May I ask how you know all this? Are you involved in theatre and higher ed? It's so interesting to read some of your comments, especially because my H and I have speculated about whether she might have more opportunity to act at a lesser known school.</p>

<p>This has been such an education. As a painter, I thought I knew something about the arts, but performing arts is a whole different world.</p>

<p>Thanks again.</p>

<p>Jamimom, I would very VERY much like to "hear" anything else you have to say about College of Santa Fe, because -- and I haven't mentioned this yet on any of the acceptances/rejections threads -- we know as of tonight that that's my D's main option. (She was away for spring break and came back to her last two rejection letters.)</p>

<p>I'll put the background in as much of a nutshell as I can. We live in Maryland and had never heard of CSF until a college fair here last spring. It sounded interesting, so we decided to visit in the summer (because after all, what could be so bad about visiting Santa Fe anyway??), and they said my D could audition at the same time. About a week later she received an acceptance letter from the Performing Arts Department; she subsequently got her academic acceptance and a bit of $$.</p>

<p>Boy, did that spoil us! It turned out to be the only acceptance she received to an audition-based program. I'll sound like everyone else if I say my D is a lovely and very talented girl who would have been a credit to any of the other six programs where she auditioned, but (as with everyone else!) it's true. I think part of the problem may have been that she relied too heavily on her beautiful voice and extensive vocal training, possibly to the detriment of the other elements. Also, she's Asian, which we'd hoped would work in her favor...but perhaps had just the opposite effect, as she auditioned mainly at smaller programs. All that's just speculation, though.</p>

<p>The bottom line is that she has her full academic/theatre acceptance at College of Santa Fe, and academic acceptances at five other schools. She says she doesn't want to "just go to college" at the other places where she didn't get into the BFA programs. Tonight, speaking from her perspective of immediate hurt and anger, she's saying she doesn't want to go all the way to Santa Fe. My H and I think it would turn out to be a wonderful experience for her. (She LOVED Santa Fe itself, and the college is also apparently strong in two other things that she's interested and strong in -- photography and creative writing.) But right now we need some more talking points, positive ammunition, and such. Anything else you (or anyone else?) can offer would be very much appreciated.</p>

<p>Newmtmom, I am not heavily involved in theatre except for through my son who was on the audition trail this year and has been doing theatre, voice and MT very heavily for the last 7 years. As a result, we know a lot of kids who go through this process. Also, S goes to a prep school with a strong performing arts program, and a number of kid go the audition route each year. I personally know some of the instructors who have done the University of Iowa program, and as professional writing has been a sidejob for me for years, I am very much aware of their program and people who have graduated from there. Those I know did get their undergrad degrees from other Iowa schools like Cornell, Coe and Drake. I know a few Drake graduates who feel they really got a good education there, and they are most well educated. For such a tiny school, I do not feel it is in accident that I know the number I do who have gone on to UChicago and other rigorous programs. I have seen the Drake name in several Performing Arts guides, and that is something you can research yourself. And by all means, do visit the school. </p>

<p>There is generally a pecking order in most programs, particularly competitive ones. Someone has to be the lead, there has to be "company". S has a friend at Tisch who has been "company" now for 3 years. We saw her resume on the Strawhat website, and she has not added a single credit since high school other than "company". Another young friend who is going to a less known school has so much on his resume from three years at his program that he has to eliminate his high school credits. I am not putting down Tisch in saying this as it was my son's first choice back and forth, and he was that close to applying ED there. And I would have been delighted for him to have been accepted. Frankly, what happened with him was that he had doubts about some of the schools where he was accepted. Though the programs are first rate, the school environment was not what he wanted. But do bear in mind that my son had a pretty good idea where he stood voice and audition wise with kids who are already in programs like Tisch, CMU. Soozievt, too, was in the same boat, as her very talented D had participated in programs with kids who had already gone that route. That is the advantage of being in such programs. If your kid is consistently cast as a lead, not in your highschool show, but in a program that tends to send kids on the audition programs, you can somewhat gauge where he stands. It is not 100%, and it is nervewracking, nonetheless, but you have some idea. His advisior at school has been in performing arts for 30 years and has a pretty good idea where the voice quality and music ability will place. Drama and MT is more tricky and not her forte, but she can give her opinion and comparisions. If your D does not have this kind of a background, gauging where she stand is going to be difficult. It is not the same as getting the lead in highschool or community or youth theatre performances; in order to know where you stand, you have to be with a crowd that includes a significant number of the peer group that will be auditioning. </p>

<p>The good news is that kids that come from all kinds of programs including non theatre programs, but particularly any kind of theatre program learn what they need to learn in the theatre world. Now the rest is talent, luck, contacts., fortitude..... These kids are also competing with kids with NO formal training or education but true grit, talent and determination. when you look at the broadway flyers most of the players have no credit given to a bfa, mt program or even a college. Really, the college is a safehouse for the kids to learn their art under the umbrella of a BA, BM, BFA..whatever, until they grow up a little bit. It beats hitting the streets of NYC at age 18. You meet like people, so you can pool contacts, knowledge, resources, apartments, rides. But if you look at the number of kids Tisch graduates each, year, the unemployment rate even for them is high, the underemployment rate astronomical in this field. </p>

<p>When my son looked at the program at Santa Fe, he was told that he could "own this town" as far as performing goes in 4 years. There are kids in the program who do. And an equity card earned in Santa Fe is good in NYC too. He looked there, because one of his music teachers made his break there, and still goes back regularly to Albuerquerque and Santa Fe for workshops. At Tisch, CMU, Michigan, I don't believe he would have been able to even audition for anything for a couple of years by departmental policy. </p>

<p>It is difficult to decide. I know kids who get accepted to the schools but not the program and the programs run most of the shows so the kid would be much better off in a school that doesn't have such a program. It seems clear to me that at this joinder, your D needs to work on polishing audition skills. To get the most attention, she would do best in a small school, small department where she would get the attention and opportunities. Believe me, in some of these programs, there are pecking orders and favorites, part of the trade. Which is fine, but if she really want to learn, to be taught, better she is in such an environment. The faculty seem to be uniformly good as jobs in the field of any kind are scarce and a faculty appt is a plum much sought after. </p>

<p>Your daughter is dead wrong if she really feels only the good programs are audition based. Most of the kids in S's school are ending up in nonaudition schools, albeit top academic schools. Yale is non audition. Brown is non audition. Wesleyan is non audition. Vassar is non audition. That in itself is not an issue. Where would she have applied, on an academic basis? As an English major, for instance. Some schools like Goucher, Wheaton, Kenyon have some outstanding theatre departments. So does Hartwick, Adelphi, and a number of other schools that just put their resources in theatre. College of Charleston is great for the arts. I can come up with a list of many non audition programs that are very, very good at every academic selectivity. But I would say that Drake's program is way up there, because of their fine music department, known MT dept and their long history in theatre. The drama you can get nearly anywhere if you are lucky enough to get a good teacher and program on board. The music is trickier as it needs a lot of support services to build such a dept. The advantage is that Drake has the infrastructure in place. But she does need to check it out and spend a "day in the life" . Or truly try the internship program with OW and reapply next year after hiring an audition coach to give you private audition lessons twice a week starting NOW, thru the summer, through the year. There are those who do it. Take care, newmtmom, and do let us know what you decide.</p>

<p>I'm glad I found this forum and have read with interest all the "alternative" routes kids seem to be taking to achieve their dreams.</p>

<p>My dd had her heart set on the BFA program at one school and didn't audition elsewhere. When she was rejected, it was very difficult for her, and I, as it is so hard to see your child hurt. However, her hurt over her rejection was based on what others had been telling her about the BA vs. the BFA, or going an alternative route (such as private lessons in all three disciplines while getting a more traditional liberal arts education). It seems that if she didn't aspire to the BFA and, worse yet, was actually rejected, then she didn't have "it" to make it in musical theater. To make matters worse, several people on another forum have made sure to belittle my child and made her and me feel worse about her rejection.</p>

<p>My dd went to a traditional Catholic college-prep high school where there is very little emphasis on performing arts other than a mediocre chorus and band. She had the opportunity to audition for the performing arts high school but decided early in Junior High, that she loved learning and wanted to be more "educated" than just concentrating on a particular area. It was the right route for her and she's about to graduate in the top 5% of her class and was offered a sizable merit scholarship to the school of her choice. Her musical theater training has come through private voice and acting lessons, and years of dance. She also has considerable experience in equity theater.</p>

<p>The funny thing is that she didn't want a BFA to begin with. It was only after hearing that it was the "way" to go to achieve her dreams that she began to feel she HAD to audition for these programs. </p>

<p>Yes, there are many, many alternatives for kids who just don't want the BFA and they shouldn't be made to feel they've made the wrong choice. What is a right choice? IMHO, that means being happy with your decision and most important, with yourself. My dd has now decided to pursue the BA in theatre studies, along with either a minor in dance or voice (she's also been accepted as a BM in vocal performance, so we're weighing that), but she'll be able to take other classes outside of musical theater.</p>

<p>God bless to everybody who has decided to pursue the "alternate" route.</p>

<p>MidgetMom, I was going to email you, but given the type of emails you are getting, I'll just say here that I am so sorry that you are having this aggravation. Although I read your postings, I must have missed what made others so angry as to think they had the right to send the type of emails you are receiving. I think Jamimom is right--don't allow them. And I wouldn't worry about your D, she sounds bright and capable and she'll figure her life out. Life in the arts is hard because it is not valued in our society--and therefore not supported. So our kids will discover whether or not they have to do it. And there is no shame in discovering that you don't have to. And they will all make compromises because that's part of life. And they'll learn what really matters to them. So this is just one little blip on what I hope are long and fulfilling lives. I've said all this before, but I repeat it as much for myself as others.</p>

<p>Jamimom, thanks so much for your thoughtful and informative posts. I'm going to print them out for my D. By the way, what does LAC mean? </p>

<p>Also, while I'm asking questions, what do people mean when they say "legit" soprano? Are there illegit one's as well?</p>

<p>Newmtmom,</p>

<p>Have you ever thought of having your daughter trying for a spring admission? Would American be amenable to this? Send an email to the admissions director of your D's choices and find out if this is a possibility. I know firsthand that many colleges are. A young man in our town did just that with Brandeis. This fall, he took two courses at another local University, and then transferred. Another one of my best friend's D did not even graduate HS with the rest of her class. She went to a small community college during the summer, transferred to Drexel for one year and then transferred AGAIN to Rutgers, where she was on a pre-med track. With one semester to go, this girl switched gears and decided that she needed to follow her true life's passion-- which is FASHION!! So, now she is taking merchandising courses and interning with a very famous NYC designer. I bring this to light in order to illustrate to you and other CC posters and lurkers the many choices and avenues available for our children.</p>

<p>Did you ever find out why American denied her admission? If it was her GPA, your D can enroll in a small community college for one semester (maybe even supplement with outside theatre courses), get great grades and move on. In addition, she can hone her MT skills by taking dance, voice lessons etc. if she still wants to pursue an audition-based program. </p>

<p>If there are notable MT programs in your area, why not call then directly for suggestions? They might have good advice for you. Local colleges are one route, but many theatre companies give classes. As I already posted in the past, Universities have a stable of professors and adjuncts that are willing to do outside coaching. My cousin, a Theatre MFA does that in her area. My neighbor, an assistant Prof. at a prestigious University also does private tutoring (her field is Portuguese Language & Literature). Right now she is doing translations for an attorney, assisting hospital case workers and giving private lessons to a dentist with frequents Brazil.</p>

<p>Please keep us all informed of your search. I'm certain that your D will have much success.</p>

<p>BTW, I used to work for a visual artists non-profit foundation, so I know all too well about the challenges of that career. Of the 400 plus artists in our database, only a handful were earning a decent living off of their artwork. So be thankful that your D did not follow that difficult path!</p>

<p>newmtmom, LAC is liberal arts college. As for "legit" soprano, my understanding is that in the MT context it's a non-belt soprano, more head voice, more use of vibrato, more linked to classical-type training...more like what you'd hear in "Carousel" than in "Wicked," more like "King & I" than "Rent."</p>

<p>I have read these posts with much interest as of late. My d only applied to 5 schools we just didnt realize that there were that many schools out there with this program until reading all of these posts. She was accepted at Point Park with a great scholarship package and waitlisted at CMU. She was rejected at the other top schools she applied to. I spoke to the admissions office at these schools as did her guidance office and she was not rejected on her audition but academically so they do play a major role in some of the schools. She is by no means a slacker she has a 3.5 GPA but did really poorly on her SAT's. She is not a good test taker and has always struggled with math. She has a lot of EC and has had the lead in her HS musicals and dramas since her freshmen year, has also done over 30 local community theatre productions. I say this not to brag about her but to state that some very talented kids do not get into some of the top programs. Not because they are any less talented than others and not because they are not intelligent. It is just a highly competitive process. She was disappointed but not devastated. She told me that this is just a bump in the road and that it was just not meant to be, it will not stop her from pursuing her dreams. She does have other options as well. She already has a personal manager in NY and has a signed modeling contract with an agency as well. Her manager would like to see her go defer college and just start auditoning and honing her skills with coaches and classes he has lined up for her in NY. which she will be doing this summer. She may attend PP and work on improving her academics and re-auditon and transfer after a year, or she may love it there. I hear they have great dance department. She might just go right to NYC take some classes from some great professionals and make money on the side modeling. No matter what her decision there are many roads that lead to success and there have been many a star who felt the pain of rejection many many times before they felt the joy of success. Best of luck to all of the future stars on this forum..</p>

<p>One reason those folks are stars is cause they made it past numerous rejections and kept at it. This field involves lotsa rejections even for extremely talented people. I am sure every star has many stories of this nature to tell! So everyone...remember that and keep the faith!</p>

<p>Thanks Soozievt for confirming. I also am glad to hear your daughter is doing well after her accident what a frightening experience for all of you. My oldest d had her first car accident this winter as well. She was very fortunate to have escaped serious injury after nearly totalling her car. I wish her well.</p>

<p>Thank you very much for your kindness, Wenlee. Luckily, though my D was unfortunately injured, she is lucky to have survived and to be someone who will end up with a happy ending and no long term effects or disfigurement! It could have turned out oh so differently. And yeah, the car is totalled. That was the least of it of course. She now has a second chance....... (glad your D had someone watching over her too)</p>

<p>Congratulations to your daughter!
Are there any good BA programs (that have theater, or better yet, MT, components) that are still open? Do you mind sharing which one your daughter is going to? Is there any chance of transferring into the MT department if you start in the BA program?
Thanks!</p>