alums and former parents...any advice on attending Convocation/graduation?

<p>Hi,</p>

<p>Ok, I'm a bit confused here. U Chicago has sent parents info on the 2014 festivities. But as someone not familiar with the University I was hoping for some first person input (rather than institutional guidance). </p>

<p>What events are essential for parents/family members? What can you skip?</p>

<p>How early in the morning on Saturday do you really need to arrive to claim chairs? (gates open at 7am) Is arriving at 8am a lost cause? 8:30am? I guess much depends on the weather. </p>

<p>Do all undergrads receive their diplomas in one long ceremony? It appears that there is one event that goes from 1pm to 3:30pm. Many schools award diplomas by smaller entities such as departments. Do you really need to sit through another 2 1/2 hours just to watch your kid? (I know I'm sounding impatient, but I've got some older/younger family members that may have trouble with a lot of sitting).</p>

<p>Any tips on taking your grad to dinner? I assume you have to head back into town to find any place that isn't overrun.</p>

<p>Any other tips that come to mind? How to handle rain? Places to duck into if someone gets tired/cranky? I'm assuming the museums and such are probably closed on Friday and Sat.</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>Thanks for posting this. Would also appreciate suggestions. Particularly for the time on Friday between the baccalaureate and the MSI reception, which should include dinner. (I can’t believe it has been 4 years already!)</p>

<p>Yes, I’m hoping either recent grads or their parents will have some insights! It isn’t clear when you get to see your graduate—given that you don’t even have lunch with them between ceremonies on Saturday! </p>

<p>I graduated in 2011, so things might have changed a bit, but probably not much.</p>

<p>Basically, the day consists of two long ceremonies, one in the morning and one in the evening. At the morning ceremony, they “confer degrees” for everybody (including grad & professional students), but undergrads just stand up as a group. I believe the convocation address is during this part. Undergrads walk in the afternoon ceremony, which is organized by collegiate division and then alphabetically, but it’s one continuous ceremony. For example, Bobby Adams in Biological Sciences goes first. Junie Abbott in Humanities goes after they finish all of Biological Sciences, etc. So if your kid is in Social Sciences or Physical Sciences, you’ll be waiting awhile. There is a provided lunch (sandwiches etc.) in between, and I ate with my family, as did most people, I think. It was pretty funny because it did rain during that time, so they let people into Crerar library to eat. My friends and I thought this was pretty crazy, since Crerar is normally known for being eerily silent and definitely not a place to eat.</p>

<p>I think my family got there around 7:30 for the morning thing, but good seats aren’t super necessary since your student won’t walk then. You’d want better seats for the afternoon.</p>

<p>Rain: the year before me, it poured throughout the whole ceremony and they just went on with it, business as usual, in the rain. It did not sound fun. My year, it rained in the early morning, so everything was wet, but didn’t rain during the ceremony. The school provides basic plastic ponchos and paper fans (I think to everybody?).</p>

<p>The ceremony is in the middle of the quads, so it’s very easy to duck off and explore the campus during the ceremony while you are waiting for your kid’s time. Some of my family really enjoyed doing this. Some of the buildings will be closed, but some are open. 57th Street, with coffee shops and bookstores, is a short walk from the quad. The Smart Museum might be open. </p>

<p>Most people go out to dinner downtown afterwards. I guess some people stick around Hyde Park, but nobody really wants to celebrate at the same few restaurants you’ve been a million times. Luckily, it’s a big city, so it’s not like small college towns where every restaurant is booked months in advance, but if you want to go somewhere popular or if you have a big party you should make reservations.</p>

<p>I liked the MSI reception a lot, but I thought the baccalaureate ceremony was pretty boring, and I normally like that type of thing. A bunch of campus performance groups that I’d seen a zillion times and didn’t find particularly impressive. I liked the Remains of Education address, though.</p>

<p>As for seeing your kid, there should be plenty of time. The real conflict isn’t related to events but to the fact that grads can feel very conflicted about wanting to spend time with their family who traveled to see them and also the last few moments with their college friends, who they may not see for a long, long time. (Unlike in high school, where kids will see each other all summer and at Thanksgiving.) So if your kid seems a bit distant or cranky, this may be part of it. But even if you go to the events, you can have dinner on Friday, see them between ceremonies on Saturday, and have dinner on Saturday, and whatever you want on Sunday.</p>

<p>Congrats to your kids, and have fun!</p>

<p>What can you skip? All of it! Any of it! You won’t, though.</p>

<p>The University of Chicago Convocation is so colossally boring, it’s a national treasure. It’s like a little survival of the old world in the midst of modernity. Nothing is done for anyone’s convenience or entertainment.</p>

<p>The way I think it goes now is this: </p>

<p>The day before has a couple of lame events. Class Day has a funny faculty speaker being intermittently funny, some bad singing by singing groups not at full strength, some really terrible dancing by the kind of dancers who go the the University of Chicago and aren’t someplace else, and a lot of jejune stuff by fraternity and sorority members that you won’t get, or care to, and your kid may appreciate if he or she was in a fraternity or sorority, and that will otherwise probably annoy your kid. (One of mine walked out of hers because of this.) You can go to that or not. There’s also some kind of dessert reception at the Museum of Science and Industry. Not only did I not go for any of my Convocations; I don’t think I have ever spoken to anyone who has gone to it. (It’s probably the highlight of the weekend.) </p>

<p>In the morning, you “line up” to get seats where you can see anything at 6:30. There are maybe a couple hundred of those; everyone else’s seat sucks. There’s no organized line, just a surly, sleepy crowd or two, followed by a jailbreak. If you come at 7:30, you may not get a seat at all, and if you do it certainly won’t be in unassisted-visual range of anything. If you can figure out which aisle your kid is going to walk down, and you are close enough to be able to take an unobstructed picture as he or she walks by, that’s a great seat.</p>

<p>Then you sit around doing absolutely nothing for hours. It rains, hard. It’s cold. The sun comes out and burns you. It rains again. Everything is soaked.</p>

<p>Hours late, and about when it can’t get any worse, a massive academic parade begins, complete with the pipers you remember from when you dropped your kid off 45 months before. The faculty are great to watch because they are all wearing gowns of the institutions where they got their doctorates, but that’s over fast. Everyone else is more or less dressed the same. The b-school grads have great haircuts.</p>

<p>A bunch of people talk, at some length. None of them are famous, because the University of Chicago does not do outside speakers for Convocation. If you listen closely, some of it is interesting. If it’s not raining too hard, there is some kind of musical component that you can’t hear too well, but based on my experience don’t worry about that, because it will be raining too hard. Everyone sings the University’s nondescript alma mater, which no one knows. (I have a great memory for melody and lyrics, and I have heard it and sung it numerous times, and I doubt I would recognize it if I heard it again. I sure can’t remember any of it.) There is some kind of token mass conferral of degrees, and honorary degrees are conferred. Some faculty prizes are announced.</p>

<p>Then everyone leaves and has a box lunch somewhere. It used to be based on which division your kid’s primary concentration was in. So you had to check whether it was in Humanities, Biological Sciences, Social Sciences, or Physical Sciences. Or New Collegiate, which is there so you don’t get complacent and think it’s obvious which division houses your kid’s major. If you were lucky, you got to meet a few of your kid’s profs, and have them talk down to you (but at least say nice things about your kid, so you were happy). But that’s the old days; now I think lunch is doled out alphabetically. If you hang out near where the appropriate division’s graduate degree ceremonies are going to be, you may still be able to have faculty talk down to you.</p>

<p>Then the real fun begins. You go back to the seating area. Everyone sits someplace else, because hardly anyone bothers to save their crappy seats from the morning. The grad students and faculty are all somewhere else. One by one, each kid’s name is read – and, more often than not, but not by much, pronounced correctly – and he or she has about seven seconds to walk across the stage, get a diploma, shake a few hands, and that’s that. Times 1,500. It takes three hours and change. Completely charming and utterly boring at the same time. If you are a professional sports photographer with a telephoto lens that would make Harry Reems blush, you may be able to get a good picture. Otherwise, don’t get your hopes up, except as noted below.</p>

<p>It goes alphabetically by division (Biological Sciences first, Social Sciences last), and within the division by major, and within the major by name. The class marshals are taken out of order, but I can’t remember where. If your last name is Zuckerberg, and your kid is a sociology major, you are pretty screwed, except that you will be able to move up and get a great seat or photography perch for the big moment, because no one else will be there anymore. As the kids in the early-alphabet divisions and majors get their papers, they tend to fade into the general population, like the Iraqi army during Desert Storm. Many of them, and their parents, depart.</p>

<p>At the end, there is another parade with the pipers, this one much smaller and scragglier than the one in the morning. But the pipers are the pipers, and that’s cool. </p>

<p>You spend what’s left of the afternoon trying to move your kid out of wherever he or she has been living for a year. You deal with your kid’s post-graduation depression and bad mood, and you go out to dinner somewhere, hopefully with some friends and other parents to keep everyone on decent behavior. You need to make reservations, but Chicago is a big city, so the University of Chicago convocation doesn’t make that much of a dent in the restaurant capacity. (It might if you were trying to eat a nice meal in Hyde Park, but you’re not; by now you know that’s a quixotic endeavor.)</p>

<p>What should you bring? Stuff to read. A fully charged phone. Rain gear and extra layers. Sunscreen. </p>

<p>What should you do? Meet your neighbors. They are fun to talk to. Cheer for their kids, too. Analyze the program fifteen different ways. What majors have the greatest percentage of double majors? What percentage of the class got general honors? Departmental honors? What majors are more popular than you thought? Why, exactly, is math a physical science? Something seems wrong about that . . . .</p>

<p>Excellent essay JHS and probably all too accurate. Is there such a thing as an enjoyable graduation ceremony? Even in high school? I’m not aware of any.</p>

<p>^^I would pin JHS’s article for the benefits of current and future Chicago parents.</p>

<p>This piece becomes a classic fast for the Chicago forum. </p>

<p>Thank you.</p>

<p>JHS, you make me almost thankful I was in the ICU for S1’s graduation! :)</p>

<p>Wow!
Thanks Arctostaphylus and JHS for a student’s and parent’s eye view. Helpful and hilarious!</p>

<p>Snacks, water bottles, pocket flask, seat cushion, polar fleece, hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, large umbrella. Towel. Leave anyone old or young at home. An exquisitely uncomfortable day. </p>

<p>Makes me think if it is worthwhile to spend $$$$ to go. But what the hell, it is only chump change compare to the 250k for the last four years.
I would do anything to fly to Abudabi to hear what Clinton has to say. Which make sense, because the college is free. </p>

<p>We had the best weather (we are from Florida so hot is good) in 2012. Even dragged 90-year-old Grandma, who wouldn’t have missed it for the world, along and we all had a blast. Even had the graduate’s name pronounced correctly. Dropped everybody off by the Quad around 8am (7:30 would have been better) and went to park in the parking garage across from Ratner.</p>

<p>@kaukauna‌, yup, there is an enjoyable college graduation ceremony: Brown’s. it’s kooky, fun and personalized, but still filled w pomp & circumstance.
I saw a video of chicago’s student speakers at last year’s commencement and I thought one was particularly good. He did a “10 things I hate about you, uchicago” speech that was hysterical but heartfelt. You should look it up.</p>

<p>Thanks to everyone who posted with advice. Especially J’adoube–we are also bringing along a 90 year old grandmother and I was having serious second thoughts about it.</p>

<p>Since we were using a “transport chair” (please don’t call it a wheelchair in front of now 92, Grandma) there were reserved seats for her and a companion at the handicapped area close to the stage and to the right. Not necessarily the best seats because of the viewing angle. Of course Grandma didn’t like the seating arrangements and to be separated from the rest of the family. We ended up moving to the middle about 150 ft from the stage and close to the aisle. One thing to remember is that as the sun moves across the sky (so to speak) the good shady spot at 9:00 am may be in full sun by 10:30. Definitely bring a hat. I mentioned earlier that they pronounced S’s name correctly–yes, in perfect Castilian Spanish. Native English speaker Grandma missed it.</p>

<p>I’ve read this whole thread and still can’t visualize what to expect. The posts are terrific, but I have the feeling any planning we do will be futile. </p>

<p>Got the plane tickets - check
Got the hotel reservations - check
Got the car rental reservations - check
Got the reservation for the cargo van - check
Got the reservations for dinner both Friday and Saturday nights - check
The student passed all of the required classes - check
Know all about the closing of I-90/I-94 - check</p>

<p>What can possibly go wrong? LOL</p>

<p>Already seeing the grumpiness in the student. It’s good to know that it’s normal. I’m not expecting a single item to be packed when we get there. </p>

<p>The sun will rise Sunday morning. After a nice breakfast and a relaxing stress-free time packing up the contents of an apartment, sometime in the mid-afternoon on Sunday, we’ll magically have the van loaded (did I mention it’s a 3 story walkup) , we will return the keys to the management company and my freshly minted graduate and I will hit the open road for a relaxing stress-free trip home. </p>

<p>I know, I can hear you all singing the Aerosmith song “Dream On”</p>

<p>It occurred to me today that we lose an hour in the first 30 minutes of the 15 hour drive as soon as we cross into Indiana. </p>

<p>Good Luck CRD! </p>

<p>We lucked out. The student got a job in Chicago, and is moving himself into his new apartment this week (or so he says).</p>

<p>At the risk of jinxing things, the weather is looking good, too:
Mainly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the upper 50s. Chance of Rain:0%</p>

<p>I’m planning on having fun (So there, JHS :P)</p>

<p>If you need a break the Smart Museum, just north of Max P, has a nice café where you can sit inside or outside under the trees. We left Grandma and sister in law there while we helped S finish packing and move to his new apartment a few blocks away. </p>

<p>weather.com predicts picture perfect day on Saturday. :slight_smile:
S1 waited until the very last quarter to take the last remaining core requirement and today he confirmed that he is indeed going to graduate. Can’t wait to celebrate.</p>

<p>headed out in the morning! We are doing the moving van thing also, but DH and DD are driving to grad school location and putting all the junk in storage there for the summer, I get to fly home :-bd It will just be 4 of us, have some idea what our plans are but don’t plan to overschedule. Also don’t plan to attend the baccalaureate but will be at the MSI. I agree the weather looks fabulous.</p>