<p>Hello everyone, i just found out yesterday that ets is accusing me of cheating on the march SAT because apparently, a 200 point improvement is not plausible, and because my answers were somewhat similar to the person sitting next to me. I swear I did nothing of the sort, and preparing to provide sufficient evidence to contradict anything that ets might say to bring me down. do you guys have any advice on this matter, or any previous experiences similar to my situation, etc.? I need all the help I can get...My life is at stake. WORKED SO DAMN HARD FOR THAT SCORE TOO. :/</p>
<p>Who had the higher score you or that person sitting next to you? If you guys both got 2400’s than there’s reason for suspicion. However, I believe you didn’t cheat.</p>
<p>They reserve the right to cancel your scores for any reason they want.</p>
<p>You will have to take it again, sorry.</p>
<p>^No lol. They can’t cancel his scores.</p>
<p>shaheiruddin: we had the same score, i think, but i missed less. thing is, if we were both capable 2400 students, why could we both not get it at the same time? in any case, I believe my arguments are valid enough for the ets person to at least note some consideration. however, i feel like i’m missing a main point here. is there anything that you might consider “odd” here? here are my arguments:
- Before the test, I asked the proctor if I could turn in my cell phone, and take it back after the test, in order to avoid any arousals of suspicion that I would cheat using my phone, in the understanding that students get in trouble for even having a cell phone during the test, although she did state that it was optional that we had to turn our phones in.
- During the breaks, I stayed in the classroom the entire time, instead of leaving for a bathroom break, and could not have collaborated with any of the tutors during this time, because we were situated in front of the proctor.
- During the test itself, the proctor walked around the aisles, and watched vigilantly while we were taking the test, making sure no one was cheating. Also, she made it clear that anyone that was caught in the act of cheating or such would be dismissed immediately.
- Fingerprint analysis
- On my November SAT, I scored a 2210, 800 in writing, 690 in math, and a 720 in critical reading. In each section, assuming I got a 2400, that would mean I did exactly 190 points better, respectively. Also, what evidence is there that I was the only 2400 in the room? Could someone else not have also gotten a 2400 (or close to it)? If so, are they also being accused of cheating?
- During the summer, when I took Elites 2100 SAT preparation course, I scored 2400 7 times on practice tests, as we took a total of 15 tests. The other 8 times, my score was either very close to 2400, or much better than I had done previously the past year. Furthermore, the gap between my November examination and March examination was 5 months, giving me more than sufficient enough time to prepare again, and warrant my score.</p>
<p>Tell that course, If it is run by someone to call in your defence. Also contact your proctor.</p>
<p>You have two choices: 1) contact Elite Prep’s attorney’s and request their assistance (Princeton Review has gone to bat for its students before); 2) retake to validate the score. (It doesn’t have to be another 2400, just statistically valid.) #1 can take months, and even if you win, CB can and will put a flag on your score report that says something to the effect, ‘we had a question on this score’. Sure, send that score report to colleges. The second choice, 3-4 hours. Good luck.</p>
<p>But, 190 points is not that big of a score increase. I would think it’s fairly common…</p>
<p>technically, don’t i have the option of sending additional evidence to ets after they send me the questioned scores letter? read this:
[Disputes</a> with ETS](<a href=“http://www.princetonreview.com/disputes-with-ets.aspx]Disputes”>http://www.princetonreview.com/disputes-with-ets.aspx)
and bluebayou: contacting elite would be uneffective, if not cataclysmic. it seems that every student in this scenario decides to prove themselves innocent by sending ets a “character trait” letter, which, in fact, does not actually prove anything statistically, and is rather irrelevant to this cause. however, does my collection of information have any flaws? as in, does it seem like i am trying too hard to prove myself innocent?</p>
<p>All seem valid points, but the fact that you scored so highly on the Elite Preparation service sounds incredibly useful.</p>
<p>Why do you believe that contacting them for additional support would be “uneffective”?</p>
<p>It might help you greatly - they may have some sources (including legal) or suggestions on how to proceed with College Board.</p>
<p>Recently a friends son took the ACT three times. First time after no preparation at the end of sophomore year. Second time after intense practice at the beginning of junior year. Third time he wasn’t feeling well right after an extended school break and shouldn’t have gone to the test, but he did and scored substantially lower than the second time. </p>
<p>ACT wants to throw out the test #2 or make him retake. Doesn’t seem particularly fair to me. The parents are pursuing what to do next. They have told him to suck it up and just do it again, but make sure he knocks it out of the park so there are no doubts. Life is unfair. </p>
<p>The interesting thing from my perspective is that a test like the ACT, you should only theoretically do better each time you take it because of the way the test is structured. Perhaps the lesson for our kids is to not take a test on a whim or if they aren’t feeling well, on the off-chance that the ETS or ACT doesn’t toss the scores out.</p>
<p>Sue the bastards.</p>
<p>undeniable: your use of the term catclysmic is a little on the hyperbole side. I only suggested contacting your prep company is bcos they have seen it all before and can work a LOT faster than you or your attorney/counselor ever can. If they won’t intervene, they won’t. The key is time is of the essence, and CB knows it. For you to take and win any legal action would take years.</p>
<p>Unlike in science, you cannot prove the null set, i.e., your innocence. What I was trying to get across is that you have only ONE choice: retake.</p>
<p>thanks samuraishark. bluebayou, i want to avoid retaking if I can. i doubt i can duplicate a 2400 (that was extremely lucky) and i do not want a lower score (say another 2200 or a 2100, for that matter) on my record if i do abide to their terms (which means i will have to take it alone, with only a proctor there). i have strong anxiety problems, so i don’t see myself doing well again if i let collegeboard dictate the terms of my retake.</p>
<p>I think, undeliable, but do not know for a fact, that you won’t need to duplicate the score. I would ask if your retake is “good enough”, that your first score be released to colleges. And, from a practical standpoint, no college will think less of you if you ONLY score a 2300!</p>
<p>Unfortunately, CB can dictate your retake. Good luck.</p>
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Yes, they can. You waive your rights when you register for the test/make an account.</p>
<p>Retake it this May . Just get around 2300 or so and you’ll get to keep the 2400.</p>
<p>200 points is quite common, I saw a 180 point increase in my writing score this past time (I didn’t get a zero on the essay this time because they could read it). I imagine that you should be able to fight them. If worst comes to worse take it again (I imagine if you get within the 2300s it would still validate your 2400).</p>
<p>yeah, idk why they are questioning you for such a high jump in score. I mean, I am surprised after hearing this that they did not question me. I went up 250 points in my overall score the second time I took it, just because I was finally used to the format and everything rather than the first time when I went into it without even knowing the format, just to wing it and see what I would need to work on. good luck to you, i’ve never heard of this before. Also, usually they scatter it where I took the SAT so that the person sitting next to you has a different test. My twin sister took the SAT the same day, and we had a different order of sections then one another, and were in the same room when we took it. (before any of you rule enforcers jump in, we waited until after the test to ask like “oh what was your first section, etc.” but again, good luck. I’m sorry you worked so hard and now have to explain yourself.</p>
<p>Just retake. In my opinion, anyone that scores a 2400 can replicate it or at least score above 2350 with ease.</p>
<p>…holy cow I’ve never heard of this kind of bullcrap</p>
<p>are you sure you didn’t do something else suspicious? lol</p>
<p>I know TONS of people with far greater score increase than 200 points. not me, but I can name at least 5 people from my school. no one was ever accused of cheating…I mean thousands and thousands of kids take the SAT. why would ETS suspect you in particular? i call ■■■■■</p>