Am I really at a disadvantage by not attending UM?

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<p>In short: my GPA and ACT weren't exceptional enough. I wasn't an all american athlete. The only thing that could get me in is affirmative action and it helped many of my colored friends. :/</p>

<p>I want to do ACCOUNTING or ACTUARY major. I don't want to work in Michigan. I want to work in NY or CO for the Fortune 500 or Big 4. </p>

<p>Will attending MSU hurt my chance of getting a secure decent salary job?</p>

<p>I know it's hard to transfer, but how high would my college GPA be to get into UM?</p>

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<p>Are you an URM?</p>

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<p>You can still secure a decent salary job at MSU, obviously. It is just a bit harder than at Michigan.</p>

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<p>It depends if you want to transfer after your freshman year or sophomore year. After your sophomore year, high school GPA and ACT scores matter less. I would say try to get a 3.8 because you’re better off (aiming higher is better than aiming for the minimum, no?) that way.</p>

<p>Make your essays extraordinary. You have three essays to show them how much you want to attend the university.</p>

<p>:) Good luck!</p>

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<p>If you want to do accounting major, Michigan doesn’t even have it, so you’re fine at MSU for that one…I know plenty of MSU accounting grads working for the Big 4 in Chicago.</p>

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<p>Michigan doesn’t have affirmative action…</p>

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<p>It’s not that hard to transfer, depending on what school you’re applying to.</p>

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<p>You can definitely get Big 4 at MSU.</p>

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<p>Yeah it will hurt you. If you want to work in Chicago or NY try to transfer to Michigan. Michigan is among the schools where top Chicago and NYC firms recruit. MSU isn’t. If you wanted to stay in Michigan it might not matter as much. </p>

<p>Nonetheless, I’ve heard transferring into Michigan isn’t that hard. And coming from a minority background will definitely help.</p>

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No. The minority facet of his background can legally have no affect on his application for Michigan. Having a rough background might help (i.e. were you poor/single mother/etc), but the minority part is not supposed to have any effect.</p>

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<p>Not supposed to.</p>

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<p>There’s no reason why Michigan can’t favor URMs, they just aren’t allowed to use a points system for admission and assign points for race.</p>

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Actually, there is a reason. It’s called the law.
[Michigan</a> Civil Rights Initiative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Civil_Rights_Initiative]Michigan”>Michigan Civil Rights Initiative - Wikipedia)

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<p>I wonder how many times a year we can possibly have this argument.</p>

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<p>Doesn’t mean they don’t do it still. Many top schools do it.</p>

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<p>Just because they say they aren’t using affirmative action, doesn’t mean they actually aren’t. You’re going to have an easier time getting in as a minority than as a white person, and that’s just how it is. The law might say it’s not happening, but the law can be broken.</p>

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<p>That’s why they added the ‘diversity’ essay around the time they ‘eliminated’ affirmative action.</p>

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<p>Michigan does it anyway. I can say that unequivocally.</p>

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<p>^^^
How can you say unequivocally that Michigan considers race/ethnicity as part of it’s admissions process?</p>

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<p>I did a bit of research on this for a gov class. The Supreme court case ruled that the point system itself was unconstitutional. The use of a wholistic approach was ruled to be within the constitution (as race did not present a clear overwhelming factor in admissions). They do try to create a diverse class/environment since evidence has demonstrated them to simply be better. So yes, being a URM will help, but only to the extent that they want to create a balanced class (top colleges admit class now, not people).</p>