<p>Prospective (AA) Student for the class of 2015.</p>
<p>I'll give you the shell of my resume, so you can give me your thoughts / advice on admission:</p>
<p>GPA: 3.23 / 3.78
SAT 1: 680 Math 660 CR 700 Writing
SAT 2: French 720 Math 1 (october) Literature (october)</p>
<p>AP:
NSL - 5
World History - Awaitiring score
English Language - Awaiting score
Physics B - Awaiting score
Psychology - Awaiting score</p>
<p>Extracurriculars:
Debate Team (2009 - present) --- County Finals competitor
Forensics Team (2009 - Presnt) --- 4th place in county for extemporaneous speech
-5th place in county for persuasive speech
-1st place in the J Franklyn Bourne Bi-county Oratorical contest
President of the Walter Johnson Rock Climbing Club (2008 - Present)
Tutor of WJ's French Honors Society (2008 - present)
Black Student Union (2007- Present)
Minority Scholars Program (2007 - Present)</p>
<p>Athletics:
Competitor of USA Climbing (2007 - present)
Competitor of USA Diving (2000 - 2007)
National recognition for Rock Climbing (15th place in 2010, 12th Place in 2009)
National / international recongtion for Diving from 2004-2007 **left after extensive injury.</p>
<p>Michigan puts A LOT of emphasis on GPA. Michigan legally can’t use AA, so that’s not help. They also eliminated rolling decision, so you’re best off applying EA. You have lows odds but you should at least try.</p>
<p>Why in the world should you being African American make your chances of getting in any different than anyone else? Isn’t that what being non-prejudiced is all about … a color-blind society? If you want to be admitted to MI, get your gpa up - a lot!</p>
<p>aglages, with 31,000 applicants, I am sure hundreds of applicants with relatively low stats (sub 3.3 GPAs and sub 1200/26 SAT/ACT) are admitted. But what are their circumstances? Do they excell in any non-academic field? How many thousands applied for the hundreds that were admitted? 4,000? Maybe 5,000? And how many were admitted? 200? Maybe 300?</p>
<p>To the OP, you GPA is on the low side, but your SAT is decent, your courses are challenging (5 APs in 11th grade is impresive, will you be taking any in 12th grade?) and you are URM. Although Michigan can not longer us that as a factor, the university, like any university, will still promote diversity and as such, a qualified URM applicant will always be given extra consideration. </p>
<p>i think you have a fair shot, try pulling that gpa up next yr, it’ll be helpful if u get deferred.
Race definitely matters, if you’re asian, no bro you don’t have a shot ;p</p>
<p>No, race does NOT matter for Michigan. They might be able to try to get diversity through other means, but race is not considered for UM applicants as per Michigan law.</p>
<p>hahlolk, that is not correct. Michigan admissions can use any judgement it sees fit in admitting students. What is illegal is for Michigan to assign points to race. But if you think that the philosophy toward admitting URMs has changed at Michigan, think again. </p>
<p>This said, it is harder for an URM to get into Michigan today than it was back in my day. Had the formula still been in use today, the OP would most likely have been admitted. With the current system, Michigan is a reach, but he race will be considered by the university adcoms.</p>
<p>Hahalolk, trust me, most universities (Michigan included) will give preferential treatment to qualified URMs. The new law prevents universities from admitting unqualified applicants based on race, and universities must abide by that law because if they are audited and it is obvious that the university still admits students based primarily on race, the university will face serious legal ramifications. However, I can tell you that if an AdCom at any university is faced with a 3.5 / 1300 SAT / 30 ACT URM applicant and a 3.7 / 1400 SAT / 32 ACT non-URM applicant, most of the times, the URM will be chosen over the non-URM.</p>
<p>If there is a larger gap, then I agree that the non-URM would most likely be selected ove the URM. In that sense, I agree with you. Before the law was passed, Michigan would habitually admit URMs with 3.0-3.3 GPAs / 1000-1200 SAT / 22-25 ACT over non URM applicants with 3.7+ GPAs / 1400+ SATs / 32+ ACTs. Those days are indeed over.</p>
<p>But to say that race does not play a factor in admissions whatsoever is not true.</p>
As this link shows, there was a significant decrease in AA students admitted. The remaining could get in on the their own right. If they can get in on their right, then it really isn’t a boost.
To the OP: I hope your school sends in a weighted GPA, because that can only help, as UM doesn’t recalculate GPAs.</p>
<p>Yea, I’ve talked to admissions officers. Even though Michigan doesn’t use affirmative action. Thats all bull crap. I know a psychology GSI who works with admissions who told me that minority students get extra consideration. All this affirmative action doesn’t exist stuff is bull. It exists, just in a different form. You can argue all you want. I know a friend who got admitted with a 2.9. Very qualified. I’m not even qualified if you are looking at statistics. 3.3 GPA here.</p>
<p>To the OP. You have a decent shot. Just apply early. I got in with similar grades although they told me that I was top 11% in my class, which doesn’t make any sense, but who cares.</p>
<p>hahlolk, URM admissions has declined. I have said that URM admissions has gotten much harder several times in this thread. All I am saying is that being a URM is still taken into concideration.</p>
<p>^ Agreed. It is hard to find a large pool of URM students that do well. I think Michigan’s decline in URM admission is also due to its rising costs. I may be wrong though.</p>
<p>Most elite institutions generally want to recruit and increase their yield of academically qualified URM students. There’s a reason why they’re “underrepresented” – the pool is so small that elite institutions are often competing for the same students.</p>
<p>When I applied to Michigan in the pre-Gratz/Grutter era, it was not uncommon for many academically qualified Michigan URM natives to attend out-of-state schools. Most of my URM classmates matriculated to schools such as Columbia, Duke, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, MIT, Morehouse, Northwestern, Penn, Spelman, etc. Recently, I learned a URM from my high school is going to Harvard, and another URM at my aunt’s school is going to MIT. A few years ago, I spoke with another URM alum (Detroit native, friend of the family) who graduated from Columbia and Harvard Business School. </p>
<p>Another factor is financial aid. URM students generally do not come from wealthy families. They follow the money; elite privates are more likely to have better financial aid packages. Univ of Michigan is competing against these kinds of odds.</p>
<p>You don’t even go to the school, so how do you even have an idea what goes on here? A wise person once told me, never pass up an opportunity to shut the **** up…</p>