Another nutjob gets tasered

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<p>eddy,</p>

<p>What video have you been watching? This kid infringed on the rights of everyone in the room by creating a disruption. He was asked to leave, and he wouldn't. When the police tried to escort him out, he refused to follow their instructions. When the police attempted to restrain him, he resisted. This resisting was a felony.</p>

<p>When you are being arrested, you don't get to tell the officers what to do. You are under their orders. If you don't comply, you get arrested. If you actually fight back (as this guy did), you get a felony charge thrown at you. "Let me go, I'll leave" is the oldest trick in the book. Every thug uses it, and every cop knows that this is BS. Once the officer makes the decision to arrest you, no amount of pleading or fighting is going to make this officer change their mind.</p>

<p>Bottom line is, if this dude hadn't behaved like a little prick he would have simply been escorted outside with no arrest, no tasing, and no felony charges. He caused these problems for himself and for everyone else, and he deserves to be punished for them.</p>

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To clear up the "escorting him out" nonsense: Within TEN SECONDS of being grabbed by the police he asks, "what are you arresting me for?"

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<p>Well eddy, once you get past second grade you should know what an ASSUMPTION is. He assumed that because his arms were being held by the police that he was getting arrested. He thought wrong. His comment shows either ignorance, the desire to create a scene, or more than likely both.</p>

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here come the ad hominem attacks. Yes, you have come to the conclusion that your argument is flawed and that it cannot stand up to criticism, so you have decided to do the noble thing and attack me personally.

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<p>Quite an ironic statement given that you have resorted to personal attacks throughout this thread. Pot+kettle=black.</p>

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<p>My argument can't stand up to criticism the same way my head can't stand up to banging into the same brick wall half a dozen times.</p>

<p>Being lazy x=x being wrong.</p>

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<p>Rocket launcher in a tube sock?</p>

<p>I could hide a glock in my jeans and you'd never know. Concealed carry is very easy to get, and very easy to keep unnoticeable.</p>

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<p>"this kid infringed on the rights of everyone in the room by creating a disruption"</p>

<p>How does asking questions at a college forum for less than two minutes constitute "creating a disruption"? Was he speaking during a lecture? NO </p>

<p>He was asking questions during a question and answer period. That does not constitute creating a disruption..</p>

<p>As a stated before, everyone on this thread who is defending the police brutality in this video is doing so because the have decided that the person in the video is ANNOYING or RADICAL or an ******* or whatever other term you'd like to use. </p>

<p>You are all hypocrites for not defending this persons rights like any other. Rights are not there to protect only those who we like or decide is a good person. </p>

<p>You have already stated that you personally ENJOYED watching this person suffer because you don't like him. Now you try to make an argument that this treatment was justified because this kid "infringed on people's rights". What a joke.</p>

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<p>Visirale,</p>

<p>Are students allowed to carry concealed weapons on UF's campus? What percentage of the students at UF own and carry concealed firearms? When was the last time that a student at UF was apprehended carrying a firearm?</p>

<p>You can always use a "worst case scenario" hypothetical to justify the otherwise unjustifiable.</p>

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<p>FROM A STUDENT WHO WAS THERE:
Quote:The video doesn’t show it, but he wasn’t even supposed to be speaking. He was still in one of the question lines when the announcer said there was only time for 1 more. This guy got mad and ran for one of the unused microphones and interrupted the guy whose turn it was to ask, screaming about why he should be heard and that Kerry has lied all day, blah blah blah. The cops tried to escort him out, but Kerry told them to let him stay. He resisted again the second time they tried to remove him, and that’s what all the videos show. I was sitting a few rows away from him.</p>

<p>Miami Herald - "The person in front of Meyer was told he would be the last person to speak, Orlando said. Meyer said he was upset with that, so Kerry gave him the OK.</p>

<p>When he took the microphone, Meyer asked Kerry several questions. On amateur video linked from Meyer's website, his questions included why Kerry conceded in the 2004 presidential election, why not impeach President Bush now and whether Kerry was a member of the Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University.</p>

<p>When reminded that he was only supposed to ask one question, Meyer responded in the video, ``He's talked for two hours. I think I can have two minutes.''</p>

<p>''He had used his allotted time. His microphone was cut off then he became upset,'' Orlando said."</p>

<p>That's how he caused a disruption before he started flailing around and shouting. I have not said anything about what he was saying or Meyer's political beliefs. I don't like being called a hypocrite by someone who has accused others of "character assassination" nor am I "so thrilled to be living in a police state, [I am] ready to wet myself."</p>

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<p>Sorry Eddy, but you have no idea about what you are talking about., STOP saying he didn't commit a crime. The minute he laid his hands on the police officer, he committed a crime. </p>

<p>2nd; All this idiot had to do when the police officers, and mostly the moderator of the forum, requested that he stop his ramblings on at the microphone was to say. "OK" and leave. He doesn't get to dictate when he will leave. This was a forum with rules. When he broke the rules of the forum, he was no longer welcomed. He broke the rules by cutting in line when they were running short of time. He broke the rules when he spoke for more than 60 seconds WITHOUT even getting to a question. He broke the rules when they asked him to stop so the forum could continue. After breaking all these rules, he was no longer invited to stay at the forum. When he came to the forum, you automatically agree to the rules in order to participate. He was no longer welcomed.</p>

<p>He then broke the LAW when his physically laid his hands on the officer. He then further broke the law when he resisted arrest.</p>

<p>All of this could have been avoided had he FOLLOWED the rules. But no, you believe that it's a person's right to break rules and to infringe on all the other people's rights. Grow up Eddy. Know what the hell you are talking about. Come back when you do and then find a point that you can argue. Nothing you have said is a valid point. Later... Mike....</p>

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<p>Kids aren't allowed to drink underage at UF but does that mean they don't do it? Was Cho allowed to have the gun that he used that day at VT? No. Doesn't mean he didn't. Unfortunately, in today's world we always have to assume worst case scenario.</p>

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<p>Visirale,</p>

<p>I really think that answer is a total cop out. Because of underage drinking all students should be assumed to be carrying concealed weapons? OR is it because of a school shooting at another university? </p>

<p>To the poster above: I obviously wasn't there when this event took place so I can neither confirm or deny what some eyewitness has claimed. If this student did in fact cut in front of another student in line then that was certainly not a very considerate thing to do. But does that behavior warrant this kind of response? I really don't think so.</p>

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<p>Christcorp- At what point in the video does he "lay his hands" on an officer? In all of the videos I have seen, he is holding his hands up into the air until he tries to pull away from the officers; he is then thrown to the ground and hit with a taser.</p>

<p>I was never arguing that this student made the right decision when he tried to pull free from the police, but that action doesn't warrant being tasered after he has already been subdued by the police. And as to his original "crime" which instigated the entire altercation, there simply was none.</p>

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<p>Guys, I don't think eddyx77 is watching the same video as us. Also he's probably an anarchist. And he doesn't believe in "facts".</p>

<p>Feel free to insult me as I know you will, mr. eddy.</p>

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<p>He got what he deserved...</p>

<p>I'll try to handle eddy for you guys =).</p>

<p>Ed, he created a disruption in the forum by breaking the forum rules. He jumped ahead of the guy asking the question and spoke over him. Following so far? </p>

<p>After a minute, the time limit for questions, his mic was cut off, which should have signaled to him that he should stop. </p>

<p>But he continued, and then the officers tried escorting him out the room.</p>

<p>The conspiracy nut became afraid as would be expected, and began to resist. Um, I want to put it more clearly just so you won't rebut this.<br>
He thought they were gonna take him to area 51 or something and have aliens do tests on him, and understandably became afraid? He resisted the police, anyway, which is the point.</p>

<p>Because he resisted, they were going to put cuffs on him. Now they wanted to arrest him. </p>

<p>He resisted more, and eventually was tased. Throughout this whole time, he was being warned over and over. To stop resisting and that he would be tased. He ignored the warnings to escape the little gray men.</p>

<p>In so doing, he was tased, cuffed, and now faces charges for committing a felony.</p>

<p>And don't mention how he said he'd leave if they left him alone. When a policeman/woman is escorting you out of a room, you shut up and don't negotiate with them. He may have not known this, but now he does.</p>

<p>For the record, he did use profanity. Listen more closely.</p>

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<p>By the way, it's important to note that he was dry tased (aka Drive Stunned). The shock, therefore, was localized and not the complete, barb conducted debilitating shock. This move was an act of discretion on the part of the police and constitutes significantly less risk to the subject than a full deployment.</p>

<p>LVPD - "The Drive Stun causes significant localized pain in the area touched by the TASER but does not have a significant effect on the central nervous system. The Drive Stun does not incapacitate a subject but may assist in taking a subject into custody."</p>