any chance at wharton whatsoever?

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<p>gpa: 3.76...weighted like a 4.5</p>

<p>act: 29..bad i know</p>

<p>pretty competitive magnet school...few kids this year going to top schools. </p>

<p>native american from oklahoma</p>

<p>ec's:
district stuco speaker twice</p>

<p>district stuco delegate</p>

<p>oklahoma state stuco president </p>

<p>oklahoma state stuco exec. board </p>

<p>hosting state stuco convention (leading 2500 + kids) </p>

<p>basic summer leadership workshop two summers (1 year delegate, 1 year counselor/staff) </p>

<p>national stuco convention twice </p>

<p>national stuco presidents board</p>

<p>national stuco election committee, Region 6 board member</p>

<p>stuco secretary, stuco president </p>

<p>usta tennis national ranking 9, 10</p>

<p>varsity tennis captain 9, 10, 1</p>

<p>regional runner up twice, state tournament twice etc </p>

<p>native american orphanage volunteer, christmas gift drive coordinator</p>

<p>social studies/athletic dept. boy of the year </p>

<p>will have taken 9 aps upon graduation..3 this year. will possibly take classes concurrently at community college next year (macro/micro, something else)</p>

<p>i know i dont have too good of chances because of my mediocre gpa and act but my counselor is addressing a few things in my recommendation. </p>

<p>How much would applying ED help? I dont think i will as I can't seem to make my mind up, but i am just curious. So I guess I want regular and ED chances! Thanks =)</p>

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<p>it is to your advantage to apply regular and here’s why:</p>

<p>ED is when the school takes the kids they really like / legacies. Since your stats are mediocre, your best bet is to ride out the minority status. They will look for minority diversity in regular decision time when they already have a picture of who they are lacking.</p>

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<p>ur native american…you should get in anywhere.</p>

<p>sidenote: doesnt every1 get a usta ranking?</p>

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<p>wow…there are lots of native american students. i agree w/ necrophiliac but i think worse come to worse u’d get deferred ed. u wouldn’t get rejected. i would just worry about what could happen if another n.a. talented student comes along.</p>

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<p>@college</p>

<p>Kinda - Technically to be “ranked”, you have to be Eligible (playing min # of tournaments, etc)</p>

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<p>Mabs and collegebound- I’m not really sure since I did play national level tournaments… but i think that you have to win a match at a higher tier tournament (ie. Super) to become ranked. at least in the missouri valley.</p>

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<p>A native American student with a 29 will get in ED or RD pretty much anywhere, it really is inconsequential when you apply. </p>

<p>I don’t think Necrophiliac understands how ED works. Sure a lot of athletes and minorities are let in ED, but that in no way means that it is harder for regular applicants to get in ED. In all honesty, most recruits are usually admitted RD even though they are “encouraged” to apply ED. This makes sense as Ivies and other rigorous academic programs have a limited number of acceptable recruits; they cant aim too high or too low. Minority application rates are arbitrary, the encouragement means relatively nothing when the dividend is unnecessary, i.e. many minorities can use race to have a similar advantage RD as well.</p>

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<p>oo ok then yes you are ranked but it would be more helpful if u put something like Top ___ in region/nation</p>

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<p>Thanks rferns. very helpful… i will probably just apply RD as I feel so unsure but i guess it doesn’t hurt to apply. </p>

<p>and mabs- I will disclose my ranking on my app. Good idea.</p>

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<p>Yeah, forget the ED thing said earlier. Penn makes a point of claiming only to count legacy status ED, but that does not really have much wider implications. If you want to go to Penn more than anywhere else apply ED; if you don’t, don’t (there are some exceptions to that depending how much you want to play the system, but given that you are probably in the range where you could be accepted or rejected reasonably, probably follow that very simple formula).</p>