<p>I'm currently a junior and was thinking about applying to columbia
Here are my stats, wondering if i had any POSSIBLE chance. at all.</p>
<p>Female(white)
North Carolina
Class Rank(I know this is my WORST part):137/600ish (top 25%)
Gpa: 4.3
APS-Junior/Sophmore Years
Calc AB/BC
World history
Us History
Calc 3-NC State Course
Differential Equations-NC State Course
English 3
Physics C</p>
<p>Test Scores-
SAT
Writing-710
Math-700
CR-680</p>
<p>Predicted Senior Year APs-not sure on these yet but...
English 4
Spanish Language
Environmental Science
IB Twentieth Century History
AP Chemistry</p>
<p>ECS:
-4 years Varsity Cheerleader
-1 year Student Council Rep
-2 years Teen Democrats Vice President
-2 years NHS
-3 years Key Club-Hopefully a board member next year
-Volunteer at local theatre-Greet guests, take tickets, work concessions, etc.
-Volunteer at Wake Crisis ministry-serve food to underpriveleged
-Duke TIP
-American Math Contest
-National French League
-Wake Country public libraries Poetry contest winner
etc.....</p>
<p>Also, I'm an IB scholar, I take two foreign languages, and go to a VERY competitive high school. I also have a recommendation from a Columbia Journalism professor, not sure how much this helps. Obviously, If i want to get in, i will be apply early decision.</p>
<p>Your SAT I scores seem to be lower than I would expect from just looking at your list of courses; I hope that your SAT IIs are better. Also, why would you take both Calculus AB and BC successively when BC is essentially AB and an extra semester (in a one year time period)? How does your GPA system work (4.3 and only top 25%)? Why does a movie theater need volunteers (don't they have paid employees to perform the duties that you have listed?)?</p>
<p>While I'm asking questions, what is key club? I've heard of it before but I've never actually seen a description of what it entails.</p>
<p>key club is a service club at our school. and its not a movie theatre, its a local theatre thats run almost entirely by volunteers that shows plays. </p>
<p>4.3 is my weighted, i think my unweighted is like 3.3, which is low, but i'm hoping it will go up by second semester. to be in the top 10% at my school you must have at least like a 4.7 or 4.8 because its a magnet school and super competitive</p>
<p>As far as Sats, they are from the beginning of this year and i will be taking them again pretty soon, hopefully they go up. I haven't taken SAT 2s yet.</p>
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to be in the top 10% at my school you must have at least like a 4.7 or 4.8 because its a magnet school and super competitive
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<p>Most people their high school is "super competitive." The people at my high school who did mediocre thought it was "super competitive." The people who were the creme de la creme -- and accordingly, Ivy/top school material -- thought it was pretty easy. If you're not even top 10% at your high school, what makes you think you're among the best high school kids in the nation -- which is what Columbia looks for?</p>
<p>Well i mean i know that's true and i'm not saying i'm the best candidate for columbia, i'm just wondering if theres any chance you know, because i still have second semester junior year and part of senior year to improve.</p>
<p>but also, my high school really is competitive. its ranked in the top 50 of top high schools in the us every year since 1999.</p>
<p>cheer12, I would work on bringing up your class rank and your scores. You're only a junior! Plenty of time to close any "gap" needed to be closed! (I wouldn't place too much weight on the competitiveness of your high school; focus on yourself.)</p>
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Most people their high school is "super competitive." The people at my high school who did mediocre thought it was "super competitive." The people who were the creme de la creme -- and accordingly, Ivy/top school material -- thought it was pretty easy. If you're not even top 10% at your high school, what makes you think you're among the best high school kids in the nation -- which is what Columbia looks for?
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would a school ranked top 40 public school in the nation by newsweek be considered "competitive?"</p>
<p>Changing your GPA/rank is like turning an ocean liner.. it will take a lot of effort and the change in vector will be incremental. You need to get your Math + CR as close to 1600 as possible (high W would be good for sure too) since that is something you can, literally, fix on one Saturday morning and will make your stats much more attractive. Then you can go into the whole "well my school is so competitive and here's why my high GPA still doesn't trasnlate into a rank that lokos good, etc, but I obviously have a big brain -- look at my SAT scores". Likewise, you will want to nail any SATII or AP test you take. </p>
<p>All of this is my opinion, but like I said changing your rank/overall GPA, if it done like at my school, then you are fighting the existing 3 years of numerator/denominator... you really only have one semester to affect a change. Good luck... you will be posting on here in 12 months and, like me, wondering where the heck the time went.</p>
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but also, my high school really is competitive. its ranked in the top 50 of top high schools in the us every year since 1999.
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<p>Regardless, a 3.3 isn't Columbia material. Maybe if you had a 2350 SAT to accompany that (and even then a 3.3 wouldn't cut it). Luckily you have time to bring both your SATs and GPA up.</p>
<p>I don't think your SAT 1 is bad at all. You people need to come down and stop discouraging her. honestly. on collegeboard it says that the middle 50 percent of first year students at Columbia have this score range:
Percent Who Submitted Scores
SAT Critical Reading: 660 - 760 97%
SAT Math: 670 - 780 97%
SAT Writing: 650 - 760 97%
ACT Composite: 28 - 33 21%</p>
<p>And this is what Columbia says:
"The admission process at Columbia is broad based but highly selective. However, as competitive as admission to Columbia may be, we still employ a holistic admission process in which every single application is given a thorough review and there is positively no minimum grade point average, class rank, or SAT/ACT score one must obtain in order to secure admission at Columbia."</p>
<p>Honestly, it doesn't really matter what you score on the SAT.</p>
<p>It's pretty insignificant compared to other things (especially for you--relatively low scores, relatively low gpa, relatively low rank). Untangibles and extracurriculars are going to weigh in more.</p>
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Apply to your flagship state school.
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UNC Chapel-Hill is pretty good and you have a big advantage as an instate student.</p>
<p>Try applying to the engineering school. It's acceptance rate is nearly 3 times higher than the college. Plus, they are actively recruiting women.</p>
<p>31act,2000sat,3.85ugpa ,5.6(wgpa) 94% of the class,480 ec,8 APs , leadership award of the year 2008,president of the class,battalion commander JROTC,fluently in french and spanish,learning chinese etc..... first generation,low income and white girl! crossing fingers!!</p>
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Try applying to the engineering school. It's acceptance rate is nearly 3 times higher than the college. Plus, they are actively recruiting women.
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The acceptance rate is misleading as it as at most engineering schools, where the applicant pool is self-selective (especially with SEAS, which is definitely a niche environment in terms of an engineering-humanities combination).</p>
<p>That being said, women definitely enjoy advantages at all engineering schools (except Caltech).</p>
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Try applying to the engineering school. It's acceptance rate is nearly 3 times higher than the college. Plus, they are actively recruiting women
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<p>middle school analysis here, seas might actually be more difficult to get into than the college (higher average sat score, more students in top 10% of classroom, attracting a niche crowd who want an intense engineering education with an emphasis on the humanities/social sciences). The acceptance rate means nothing if applicant pools self-select differently. </p>
<p>To make it crystal clear: if the bottom half of the applicant pool dropped out for columbia college, and only the 10,000 smarter/more qualified/passionate kids applied, it would be just as difficult to get in but the acceptance rate would be twice as high.</p>
<p>Also I haven't seen much evidence to show that women get in easier to seas.</p>