<p>I need to publicly stand corrected. I have read over logosprincipal's previous postings on the scholarship issues in NC....and when placed in that proper context, I clearly see that logos does not make issue with oos candidates admission to UNC. </p>
<p>And honestly, any kid who scores over 1200 M+V on the SAT is going be successful in handling most college curriculum, so to compare oos and instate candidates and a minor scoring differential is pretty pointless imho. The high graduation rate at UNC tells that story.</p>
<p>Thank you, ldmom. I wish you and your daughter the best wherever she decides to attend college. UNC-CH is a great school, and I think that she would be very happy there.</p>
<p>My son did gain admission to UNC, and even was offered a wonderful scholarship.</p>
<p>He was waitlisted at Georgetown and Rice. Admitted to Virginia and Davidson, but no merit money. Admitted to Miami of Ohio, his safety, with a 50% merit scholarship.</p>
<p>SAT 1540 (2290 w/ Writing)
ACT 36
GPA 3.8
AP courses: 7
AP Scholar with Honors
National Merit Finalist
Presidential Scholar nominee, etc.</p>
<p>So, you know? You just kind of have to get fatalistic about it. It all looks very random, from where we sit, and to love a place and have them not adore you HURTS! But you will end up being so happy at Notre Dame that you will thank UNC for waitlisting you -- or you will gain admission in the end and go to UNC, but your time of not knowing will have done something else positive for you that could not have happened any other way.</p>
<p>Don't allow any bitterness to enter your heart. When you look back over you life, you will see that it has been the most wonderful miracle.</p>
<p>Well, I don't know about parents and bragging rights. The only reason this topic was raised here, is because the OP made some rather disparaging remarks about the academic quality (loosely based on SAT scores) between in-state vs out-of-state.</p>
<p>As stated before, I agree that SAT scores are not the be-all and end-all of a person; that admissions committees tend to look at more than the SAT score; and that no one ever talks about SAT scores once you're out of high school.</p>
<p>I agree, Jack. One of the things I like about the CC site is that the members discuss student records and acceptances, deferrals and rejections openly, which helps to make sense out of a very baffling process. </p>
<p>I like the fact that there are hundreds of students and parents who post their records unabashedly, including test scores, not in a manner of bragging, but to help all of us fit together the pieces of a fairly incomprehensible puzzle. It helps to try to understand what certain schools see as their "profile."</p>
<p>In my case, I included my son's stats to reassure Marcc that students with very high credentials get waitlisted -- and that he shouldn't take it personally, but enjoy the wonderful acceptance that he's earned at a very, very fine school, where it sounds like he will be most happy and sucessful.</p>
<p>I guess some young people are overly sensitive on the topic, which is odd since there are so many fabulous student resumes posted all over CC: they must be mad at a slew of people! But I can overlook the snipe. It took me years to learn to be gracious in the face of things that I find irritating, so I won't hold today's youth to a higher standard than I was able to meet myself.</p>
<p>vrsinc: Nicely put. And I agree. I think all the OP (or anyone) would have to do is scan the amazing stats of students on CC, to appreciate how many have been waitlisted or outright rejected from schools--only to be accepted by other equally fine institutions. Just another example of how stats (test scores) alone are not the only deciding factor in elite admissions. And I truly believe (and hope) that most students ultimately end up at schools where they are very happy--and have no regrets.</p>
<p>I do expect, however, if you were an in-state UNC parent (and I assume you are not in-state), you might find it slightly more difficult to overlook some of the disparaging remarks made here by the OP. So I would hope that one can be gracious and still make a valid point.</p>
<p>There is no formula for admission to a college. We all know this... so you all need to quit analyzing all these stats and you all need to quit comparing these stats tit for tat. Honestly, AND obviously, SAT is not all that important in the grand scheme of things, because I know quite a few people who were denied admission to UNC with 1300 + SATs, and I also know some people who have 1100 - 1250 SATs who received scholarships. You're all blind if you think the admissions board isn't checking out YOU as a person, and not as a formula... a number. Each application is an individual case, and just because a prospective student does not have the top-notch student SAT score, doesn't mean he/she is going to be thrown into the rejection pile. There are students every year who blow their admission to a college (even UNC) based on the essay he/she wrote. We all know extracurriculars mean a lot. However, back to the essays - the essays give the admissions staff the insight as to the REAL you... not the concret facts on the APs you've taken, or the scores you received on those exams. Keep in mind they <em>do</em> take certain things into consideration as well; maybe a student moved in the middle of his/her high school career. Maybe the student's parent passed away. All these hardships may have allowed for the sculpting of the student's personality and accomplishments. An essay filled with personal experience and wisdom, to me, is ten times more effective in admission, than say a student who wrote an essay based off of what he/she wanted the essay reader to hear. Now, you don't think they can't see through that do you? These people (admissions staff) have experience. Anyway, enough of this rambling. Congrats to all who were accepted; maybe I will see some of you around next year.</p>