<p>A post in another thread brought to mind something I've been meaning to ask.</p>
<p>My son's high school doesn't offer a ton of AP classes (maybe eight or so), but they do offer a lot of classes that are for concurrent credit at the local state university. There is no AP English, for example, but the required Senior English class counts for 6 semester hours at the university.</p>
<p>I'm thinking that the credits will transfer to most other colleges, and the best colleges that won't accept the transfer credit probably wouldn't grant AP credit, either.</p>
<p>So, is it worth taking an AP English exam, or would that just be superfluous given that he'll already have college credit? (Keeping in mind that colleges won't see the AP results until after the admission process is complete.)</p>
<p>My D’s school accepts zero dual-credit courses but has a reasonably lenient policy on AP course credits. Had she had a reason to want to graduate early, taking the AP tests after the dual-credit courses (and filling any gaps in with self-study) would have been the safest way to go to assure credit at the widest number of colleges.</p>
<p>Am I right in assuming that the typical list of “elite” colleges and the list of colleges that don’t accept transfer credit are pretty much the same? (I could probably go and look this up, but I’m trying to save myself from checking fifty different college’s websites to get the answer.)</p>
<p>If you have any idea which school(s) your child is most interested in, the U can be contacted & they are pretty good about explaining their policy re accepting/not accepting credits via AP or concurrent enrollment or other means.</p>
<p>BTW, your question was not about transfer credit, per se. At least that’s not how I read it. It was about transfer credit of concurrent or what we call “dual-credit”.</p>
<p>Edit: The way it was explained to me was “If they received high school credit for a college course taken while in high school , we don’t count it”. It was the high school credit part that renders it “un-acceptable”. Not the transfer part.</p>
<p>Really? Oooh. I have some research to do, then. I sort of assumed that most colleges aside from your Princetons and your Amhersts probably accepted transfer credit.</p>
<p>I figured out that, between AP and concurrent credit, my son could enter the flagship state school with anywhere from 40 to 60 credit hours. (Still in shock, believe me.) This, combined with the likelihood of good financial aid and their honors college, could make State U the clear front-runner. (For me, at least. For him, I’m sure the front-runner will be someplace far, far more expensive.)</p>
<p>Now that you put it that way, I’m not sure what I mean. Can you help me figure it out?</p>
<p>I’m talking about classes that my son takes at the high school, which end up on his transcript at State U with grades. Therefore, when he graduates from high school, he will also have X credits at State U and a grade-point average. So, when I talk about transfer credits, I’m talking about transferring those credits from State U to whatever college he decides to attend after high school.</p>
<p>EDIT: I just saw your edit, and I think that answers my question. Thanks.</p>
<p>A bit more info: We have kids at UFlorida and Rice. Neither accepts ANY dual credit; Both accept credit taken at college while in HS if the HS counselor and U registrar certify they are not used for HS graduation; both accept college courses taken over the summer (so they don’t count at the HS); both accept AP 4 and/or 5.</p>
<p>The picture is becoming clearer. I think the concurrent-credit policy at my son’s school is designed to keep the kids in-state after graduation by granting them dual credit that doesn’t apply anywhere else! I really think this makes sense and must be the case. And I don’t think it’s a bad policy at all, although obviously it’s not going to work to our advantage.</p>
<p>S2 did dual enrollment his senior yr. taking two classes at our CC. The classes counted toward his h.s credits (averaged into his gpa as honors classes) and but he also had credits on a transcript at the CC which transferred to any of our state u’s. It has become a very popular option at our school because many kids go to our state u’s and the CC classes may be easier to get credit for (only need a C to transfer whereas that 4 or 5 on the AP exams may be harder to achieve). </p>
<p>Most of the kids take courses that will fulfill freshman requirements that are not progressive into harder levels of the same subject (like Chem. or Calc). They mostly take things like Intro to Sociology, History or Art/Religion type classes that will fulfil elective/humanities/fine arts reqs.</p>
<p>You may want to contact the HS or state U program directly. My D took 2 Advanced College Program classes at her HS which also counted as credits at our state U with a GPA. The university which granted the credits had a list of colleges which accept the credits. Some colleges don’t see it as the same thing though. In D’s case the AP Calculus class students and the Advanced College Program students were in the same class and received the same HS credit. When April rolled around some students began focusing on the AP test and other’s began reviewing for the final. The final for the ACP students was the same final used at the university.</p>
<p>Our students have also had mixed experience with this. One school, a Tier 1 private, had no issue at all transferring credits. The other, an OOS public flagship, accepted the credits … but only gave credit as ELECTIVE courses. So the dual-credit Calculus course became ‘Foundations in Mathematics’ or some other nonsense. YMMV.</p>
<p>I wonder if some of you might answer my question in light of this thread.
DS will be most likely (he does not have the class schedule yet) taking AP Calc BC as a freshman , then as a sophomore and junior will be taking math classes at the state flagship (it is four semesters!), before heading back to HS for IB Higher Math (unless he decides to apply to college after junior year). I have already conceded that this will play against him as far as class ranking goes, but I am hoping that adcoms will see the big picutre.
He will need three years of math to get a HS diploma. Which of his credits will transfer then?</p>
<p>Kelowna, among other things we would have to know how your school district treats his “prior to high school” but “high school level” math courses. In my D’s district they credited her with High School credits for math taken in junior high so she wouldn’t have needed to have her college math on the transcript at all (had she taken any ;)). </p>
<p>Now if they ARE required for graduation I don’t think her UG school’s policy would change a whit- IOW if those flagship college courses were somehow included on the high school transcript for any reason her college would still not count the hours as college credit under their policy. My advice in that instance is : If not needed for graduation, don’t let them go on the transcript.</p>
<p>Since most colleges have clear policies regarding credit for AP tests, my suggestion is to have your S take AP tests in May for classes that correspond to the concurrent college classes, even if they cost you some $$.</p>
<p>I guess he will have to find out soon how his middle school math courses will be treated.
We, the parents, would like him to have four years of math in HS, university level or not. I think he would like that as well
Why are you saying to not let them go on transcript? What if they are A’s?</p>
<p>menlonparkmom - am I missing something? The last AP he can take in math is Calc BC.
Ther are no AP test for Linear Algebra or Multivariable Calc?
And, BTW, what comes after that?</p>
<p>K
my post was directed to the OP and was in response to his question of trying to get placement credit, and whether or not to take the AP test[ see below] . It wasn’t in response to your later query. I’m not the fasted typist and got distracted in the middle of posting.</p>
<p>“So, is it worth taking an AP English exam, or would that just be superfluous given that he’ll already have college credit?”</p>
