I am enrolled in the AP Program…
My friend is enrolled in the IB Program…
Which one is better??
What is the difference between them??
<p>IB level classes are harder than AP level classes - or so i heard.</p>
<p>What is better??</p>
<p>AP Scholar Diploma or
IB Diploma???</p>
<p>some ppl enrolled in AP take IB exams..
and some ppl enrolled in IB take AP exams..</p>
<p>so they can get both diplomas and show off..</p>
<p>only difference that i saw between to programs is:</p>
<p>AP Calculus is harder than IB HL Math
IB offers Philosophy..
AP offers more arts</p>
<p>IB ...hands down.</p>
<p>whats an AP scholar diploma? u dont get AP scholar diplomas? i guess u can get those scholar awards but those dont really mean anything</p>
<p>if IB is done correctly, i believe it is more difficult, but at many places IB suffers</p>
<p>IB Diploma (the full program, not the watered-down version that many students take in some US schools) is much harder than AP.</p>
<p>In terms of college admission, I don't think they differ that much. If you take all AP classes, then AP is as impressive as IB.</p>
<p>the ap scholar diploma is awarded to those whose AP exam average is 3 or higher on at least 3 exams.</p>
<p>AP Scholar Diploma is as much of a joke as the IB Partial Diploma (or whatever u may call it)
I am talking about National AP Scholar.. Is it equivalent to IB Diploma??</p>
<p>ohhh....haha.</p>
<p>i know that the National AP Scholar is awarded to those with an AP exam average of 4 or higher and at least 8 exams must have hada 4 or higher on it. the IB diploma should be the equivalent, but i`m not sure.</p>
<p>you cant really say they are "equivalent" because you'd have to do different things to earn each of them. </p>
<p>the national AP scholar requires you to pass i believe 8 exams (correct me if im wrong) with whatever score they wanted to. you can pick whichever exams you want to take to do this.</p>
<p>the IB Diploma requires you to pass all 6 of its subject tests (balanced between subjects) and also complete the TOK class, the Extended Essay, and the CAS requirement. </p>
<p>if you're looking for something to boost your college apps, it's impossible to know if you're absolutely going to get the IB diploma before you graduate... colleges will only know that you're on track for it. national AP scholar however, is something you can show if you've passed all 8 of those exams before senior year. </p>
<p>"IB level classes are harder than AP level classes - or so i heard."</p>
<p>for the most part, they are the same. it's the extra work that's required of the IB classes (internal assessments), the well-roundedness you are required to possess by taking all 6 subjects, and the extra TOK, EE, and CAS that makes it more challenging than AP. of course, you can load your class schedule on AP steriods too and achieve a very demanding and well-rounded course load. </p>
<p>"AP Calculus is harder than IB HL Math"</p>
<p>really? ....................... IB HL Math is one of the hardest tests of the entire IB program, or perhaps it is for students in the US because our math is not up to par with the math in europe or asia. even some magnet schools which offer AP Calculus BC discourage their kids from taking the HL math exam.</p>
<p>at uc's, an IB diploma gives you more possible credits than ap's
its hard to judge which classes are more difficult because it depends on the school, and the tests are very different. Ib has practically no multiple choice ?'s on their tests
An Ib diploma requires more out of the candidates</p>
<p>I think IB HL Math is harder than any AP calculus course. I believe it covers more than Calc BC.</p>
<p>yea, the highest score that anyone at my school has like ever received on IB HL Math is like a 6, and most people barely pass
However, almost everyone gets a 5 on Calc BC</p>
<p>Uh, please. Try less than 40%, mtb1226.</p>
<p>"at uc's, an IB diploma gives you more possible credits than ap's"</p>
<p>no, IB Diploma credit is capped at 30 quarter units. a combination of around 4-6 AP's can probably be equivalent to that (depending on which tests you take as some offer more credit than others). so if you take more APs that that, you can exceed the IB Diploma number of credits. </p>
<p>i also believe IB Math HL is harder than AP Calc BC.</p>
<p>If you really want hard Math, try Further Calculus SL (in IB). It's a group 6 class for IB HL math kids who aren't challenged enough. Killer.</p>
<p>I'm an IB senior right now who's taken plenty of AP classes. I consider IB to be much more rigorous than AP simply because you do not have to pass your AP exams in order to get your diploma. </p>
<p>IB is a program, its not simply a test that you take at the end of the year. If you fail one of your IB exams, you do not get your IB Diploma, and all the work you've done for the past 4 years goes down the drain. </p>
<p>Also, what makes IB more difficult is all the extra assessments you have to complete that get sent to random countries all over the world to be graded. IB students have to complete an extended essay, a natural science research project, 2 world literature papers, a history internal assessment, an english oral examination, a Theory of Knowledge analytical paper, etc. etc. All these assessments have to be completed or else you don't receive your IB diploma. </p>
<p>To conclude, IB is a way of life. AP is only a class. </p>
<p>--David--
Miami, FL</p>
<p>P.S.- IB Exams start in like two weeks. Off to study!</p>
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<p>LMAO. Very nicely phrased.</p>
<p>As an IB kid I'm obviously biased, but even so I think it depends on the individual. It's like finding a college: a program that's a good 'fit' for one student may not work at all for another.</p>
<p>AP is a bit like Brown: there are no core requirements, and your education becomes what you make of it. The list of classes you take can be well-rounded, lopsided, or downright eccentric.</p>
<p>IB is more like Yale: you're required to choose a certain number of classes from pre-assigned groups, in order to become a well-rounded individual. You still have room for self-expression (Group 6 and the creative elective) but overall it's a more structured approach to learning.</p>
<p>I personally prefer IB, because the coherency of the program forces the student to develop different ways of thinking while still leaving space for flexibility. In the end, it comes down to finding the best 'fit' for you.</p>
<p>Does that analogy make sense to anyone else?</p>
<p>how do you take IBs/ be enrolled in IB programs? if it's a "way of life", do you have to go to special schools for it? what are A levels and how do those compare?</p>