<p>i still dont know if i should just go to SDSU, or go to SBCC and transfer. i might be eligible to transfer from sbcc to ucsb after one year, but then i dont know if i want to be in junior level classes as a "sophomore". oy this is such a hard decision. i think i want to study psychology. does anyone know if sdsu has a respectable program, or how good ucsb's psych program is?</p>
<p>well, i mean if you reallywant to go to ucsb, i suggest that u should trnasfer. I mean i was debating whether i should go to ucsc or jc to ucd. But, it is always possible to transfer and its a better experience. But, do whatever you feel is right. listen to your gut feeling. are you really willing to go to a school which you dont want to go to? there are so many benefits to go to a jc: less money, better gpa, transfer to a school you truly desire, you can decide what major you want to do, and more flexibility. i wanted to go to a school because i wanted to experience the dorm life. but, i realized that i will be able to experience college life only after about 1 to 2 years. there is no rush. so, i highly recommend that you go to a jc and transfer to a dream school</p>
<p>Yes, this is possible...I personally spoke to an ad com at UCSB last week. BUT - you must have 60 units to transfer to UCSB...so its just a matter of how many units you have. It may require you to go to summer school at a j.c., such as SBCC. Transferring before then is very, very difficult "almost impossible" as the ad com put it.</p>
<p>For those of you who were talking about SBCC and Tropicana - we have visited them both. Its not for everybody. Tropicana is a very relaxed environment and rumor has it that its quite noisy and the kids often have to study in the library to "get away." Its not cheap either. But we have paid for private schools since kindergarten, so we're use to budgeting $$ to pay for school.</p>
<p>We sent in our app to Tropicana anyway as a back-up. Its as near to UCSB as you can get being an outsider, but you have a 20-25 minute drive to SBCC. That didn't bother my son - he has a 30 minute commute in LA traffic to high school everyday, so he is used to it. Combine that and the fact that we bought him a convertible, he's willing to do it for two years.</p>
<p>Ucmom - </p>
<p>sorry but could you please respond to my post earlier, it was over lengthy and you probably missed it, but it is the one asking about whether or not you recieved a ucsb email earlier this week or not (on page 1 of this thread)</p>
<p>glad to hear your daughter will be going to sdsu, i also sent my SIR to sdsu and will most likely be going there if i am rejected by ucsb (so most likely). i visited it the other week and absolutely loved it. i even know a girl who chose sdsu over ucsb, not that i would but just goes to show there is NOTHING wrong with this school! go aztecs!</p>
<p>if i went to sdsu for ONE year, and somehow got all the units i needed, prolly throwing in some summer school classes this summer, do u think it would be super hard to transfer to ucsb? cuz i was looking at some stats and last year 1500 students applied to transfer from a 4year college to ucsb, and 800 got in. it doesnt seem thaaaat bad?</p>
<p>Seacow, my daughter hasn't received any e-mail from UCSB. So it sounds like they may still be considering you! Good luck and let us know if you get in. Otherwise, have fun at SDSU!</p>
<p>I think a lot of people who didn't get into ucsb are going to sdsu because it has a lot of the same qualities such as nice people, beautiful campus, close to beautiful beaches (my dau is a surfer), and one of the better cal states. (She also got into SLO, but didn't want to go there.) GO Aztecs!</p>
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i dont know if i want to be in junior level classes as a "sophomore". oy this is such a hard decision. i think i want to study psychology. does anyone know if sdsu has a respectable program, or how good ucsb's psych program is?
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The UC rules can be confusing so it might be worth reading thru the catalog a couple of times (<a href="http://www.catalog.ucsb.edu/ls.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.catalog.ucsb.edu/ls.htm</a>) </p>
<p>First off, there is your UC class standing and then what you consider yourself. Class standing is simply based on units. So if you xfer after 1 year because you have 90+ units (and note the requirement isn't just 90 units, its 90 units with a specified distribution pattern) you are a junior by standing. However it does not mean you have to start taking junior level classes! You can take any class you want, lower or upper division. </p>
<p>There are some constraints. You can't go past 200 units total but it says in the catalog that AP units do NOT count towards this total. So if you xfer with 90 units you'll have the sum of 110 units plus whatever units of AP credit you have available to take classes. You only need 60 upper-division units to get a degree (more for some majors). What this all means is that if you go to ucsb after 1 year at SBCC you can treat it as your sophomore year even if UC considers you a junior by units, and you have plenty of room to take lower-division classes like other sophomores (provided, of course, that they don't duplicate courses you already have credit for). BTW one little perk is that enrollment is done by class standing so you'll have a better chance of getting the classes you want than the actual sophomores!</p>
<p>To your 2nd question, I would advise against picking a U based on its rep for a particular major. 3 reasons here. First, undergrad classes in the liberal arts do not really make you a specialist in something. You are not a psychologist with a BA in psych, you need at least a masters. You are not an economist with a BA in econ, it usually takes a PhD. And so on. Regardless of major, you are a liberal-arts holder and these are viewed more or less interchangeably by employers and grad schools. </p>
<p>Second, most students change their major in college. You'll take a smattering of classes for your breadth requirements, and many people discover a field they like even more when they do this, one they had never considered before. </p>
<p>The 3rd reason is that your major is not the majority of classes you take; the psych major at ucsb, for example, only takes 9 upper-division classes and 4 lower-division classes. So pick the school that has the educational challenge and environment you're looking for.</p>
<p>I understand you face a tough choice, and you have my sympathies! Talk to the xfer center at SBCC, and also visit sdsu if you can and see if you like it there. sdsu is a fine school, too; really you can't go wrong with either choice . So rather than viewing this as win/lose, a better way to think of it is as win/win. If you go to sdsu you'll get a good education and college experience. But if your heart has always been set on ucsb and you're still willing to do it, you have an opportunity to get most of the ucsb experience that you would have gotten had you been accepted for this fall. Its a hard decision, but I think you can be happy with either choice.</p>
<p>I just called ucsb and was informed that i was on a appeal waiting list, along with 45 others. They said to go ahead and make plans with other colleges and that they would try to let me know soon... Now im really nervice, i honestly thought i had no chance of an appeal, but it appears i have one now, however small it is. The bummer is that they cant guarentee housing for appeal students but hey i'd be happy enough to just get in.</p>
<p>seacow, that's good news! Since it sounds like you'd go if you get into ucsb, one thing that could help is to have your HS counselor call ucsb to let them know this. If they turn to the list its because they have space available due to fewer enrollments than they planned for. If they take people off this list, its to fill those spaces, and I think you can boost your chances if they take people off the list of being one that they take by letting the school know that you will enroll if accepted. This is a common tactic of people on waitlists, to write the school a letter letting them know its their first choice and that they will enroll if accepted. Given the time pressure here it might be quicker to have to counselor call, and I'd also send the letter. BTW only do this if its true!</p>
<p>My counselor is out today, would it work if i called personally and told them? My experience today is that the lady i talked to really didnt know much about the process and referred to a letter she got from the admissions director about the 45 "exception appeals" that would be admitted if space permitted. Do you really think that just telling this customer service lady would increase my chances or should i be calling a different number besides the main admissions phone number?</p>
<p>seacow, my guess is that your counselor gets direct access to adcoms while the general public deals with the staff like the lady you talked with today. Thats why I suggested having the counselor call, so the right people would get the message. BTW let me add I don't KNOW that's the way it works, just my assumption.</p>
<p>So I'd get the letter in the mail today, and then have your counselor call tomorrow.</p>
<p>Seacow, what did you say when you called the admission people to find out if you are on the waiting list?</p>
<p>Just curious...I was wondering what your appeal said. My son appealed UCLA and has not heard anything..</p>
<p>seacow and sockherplayer, have you signed up for housing at sdsu "just in case?" I called housing and the $800 fee is refundable by mid July minus a ~$50 charge for processing. It might be a good idea to sign up just to keep your options open because housing is not guaranteed at sdsu. In the meantime, what have you found out about housing in IV for sbcc students? The houses/apartments/off campus dorms are most likely all booked up for fall (we have UCSB friends who said everyone signed up in January/February for fall housing in IV) Well, good luck on your appeal seacow and good luck with making your decision sockherplayer. No matter where you end up, I hope you have a wonderful time!</p>
<p>mtlvrmom, where will your son go next year if not ucla? Good luck with the ucla appeal...the wait for ucsb appeals was like an eternity for us. I'm sure it is very hard to wait even longer for ucla. Whatever the result, hope your son has a great year in college next year!</p>
<p>he has three choices...Cal State Fullerton (brand new performing arts center will open Jan. 06) and two private colleges have offered him a generous scholarships. But his heart is set on UCLA MT - please UCLA accept him!!!!!!!</p>
<p>ucmom, its true that the apartments go quick in the spring because that's when the current students make plans for next year. Students are guaranteed a year in the dorms and most move out after that, and the students already out in IV move around.</p>
<p>However with 10,000+ students living in IV its a sure thing there are going to be openings in the fall as people decide not to attend, decide to live somewhere else, etc. The housing office always has a stock of these.</p>
<p>And even right now you can find apts in IV for next year. SBCC has a list of apts for rent, updated daily, at <a href="http://www.sbcc.edu/housinglist/%5B/url%5D">http://www.sbcc.edu/housinglist/</a> and it lists apts in IV.</p>
<p>As a humerous anecdote, there are apartments oceanside on Del Playa (the street on the ocean) that have literally been in a family to some degree for 10 or 15 years!! A lot of times 2/4/6 students will band together and rent an entire 1/2/3 bedroom apartment, but oceanside DP this is rare. What happens is someone lives in one of these apartments and then a younger sibling attending ucsb moves in too. The older one graduates and the younger one stays but a friend from HS moves in to take the vacant spot. And so on. At some choice apartments you can trace the lineage back a decade or more like this!</p>
<p>BTW, just so this isn't a surprise, even though school runs 9 months landlords are no dummies and make tenants sign a 1-year contract. So you have to pay for your apartment over the summer even in you aren't living there. This, in turn, leads to GREAT deals if you're a student who wants to spend the summer attending class at ucsb and surfing or something. Come May students will sub-lease their room for a pittance because even a few hundred bucks is better than nothing and their on the hook for the full rent anyway.</p>
<p>I got my appeal rejection letter from UCSB today, so i guess sdsu it is. However i just checked the sdsu online confirmation page and apparently i didnt send a transcript from the local community college where i took a course. It says if all documents are not received before May 2nd, they will revoke admission. So basically I went from the possibilty of 2 colleges to the possibility of None. Going to call them tomorrow, hopefully it all works out.</p>
<p>sdsu will be lenient im sure, especially someone with ur stats, im sure ull get in. maybe next year we can meet up cuz wer both ucsb rejects at sdsu! hah</p>