<p>yeah. so my dream of going to UCSB was completely ripped away from me when i got the letter. "The Admission Review Committee has considered your appeal of our admission decision. We regret that we are unable to offer you admission at this time as we have reached our enrollment limit for Fall 2005."
im devastated.</p>
<p>Don't undersestimate the power of the "transfer".</p>
<p>Sockherplayer, My thoughts are with you. My daughter also had her life long dreams of UCSB ripped away today. It seems so unfair that a lot of lesser students at her school, many who don't even like the beach, are going in her place. I seriously question the admissions procedures at UCSB. It will take some time to adjust, but by next Fall, hopefully you will be very excited about where ever you choose to go :)</p>
<p>Don't abandon hope yet!</p>
<p>if it is your dream school there are still ways in. Transfer from a CC is your best option since the UC schools give preference to transfers from CC's. </p>
<p>In fact SBCC (Santa Barbara CC) has a program that guarantees you can transfer to UCSB. Not only that, while an SBCC student you can actually take 1 UCSB class a quarter for only $18 a class just to get your feet wet at UCSB (a price, BTW, far less than the UCSB students pay!). See the SBCC Transfer Academy web page at <a href="http://www.sbcc.cc.ca.us/transferacademy/index.php?sec=825%5B/url%5D">http://www.sbcc.cc.ca.us/transferacademy/index.php?sec=825</a> You should contact them to make sure the info in the web page is current and accurate.</p>
<p>Many SBCC students live in Isla Vista, right where most other UCSB students are. As a SBCC frosh things won't be exactly the same since you can't live in the UCSB dorms, but other than that just consider what it could be like -- you live right where most other UCSB students do, you can attend on-campus events, lectures, etc, make friends & socialize with UCSB students all 4 years you live there, even take UCSB classes. Given the size of UCSB I think most of your neighbors won't even know you're not a UCSB student; they'll just think they don't have classes with you and don't run into you on campus very often.</p>
<p>BTW I think doing this isn't that unusual. There were several people I knew in IV doing this. And the local paper reported that SBCC had the highest success rate of CC students going to UCSB (see <a href="http://tinyurl.com/cl9nf)%5B/url%5D">http://tinyurl.com/cl9nf)</a>. I think the reason for this is that many of them are going to SBCC specifically to xfer to UCSB, and are thus a bit more skilled than the randomly-chosen CC student.</p>
<p>edit: take back a bit of what I said above about housing. It turns out that there is a private dorm, Tropicana Gardens, that hosts both UCSB and SBCC kids. See <a href="http://tropicanagardens.com/applications/SBCC_App_05-06.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://tropicanagardens.com/applications/SBCC_App_05-06.pdf</a></p>
<p>750 students appealed and only 11 got in, and although i got into SDSU and might go there, now im considering transfering through the city college. i have a question. if i pass all my AP tests with a 3+ i will have 27 transferable credits to a UC, but UCSB says they need 60 semester units, or 90 quarter units... my 27 units are semester right? cuz my high school is on the semester system...?? also, if because of that, i will basically only need 1 year at a city college, so would it be possible to transfer to UCSB in a year as a junior level applicant, or would i have to do the comm college thing for 2 years?? since this question is so long i dont expect anyone to answer it, but oh well</p>
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so would it be possible to transfer to UCSB in a year as a junior level applicant
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The UC schools are pretty formula driven in a lot of ways. If they say you need to be a junior to xfer, you need the number of units they specify and not one less.</p>
<p>What I suggest you do is get on the phone and call the folks at the SBCC transfer academy and explain your situation. You really need expert advice on this, not something you're going to get on this forum. Not only do you need enough units but you probably need units that they'll count to transfer. There's all kinds of rules about distribution requirements (meaning you can't take too many courses in the same area and have them all count), how much credit they give for each AP test, and so on. </p>
<p>But bottom-line, at least one way to transfer after 1 year is to have junior-standing the way the UC school evaluates it. There may be others, too.</p>
<p>For those whom have UCSB as a dream school (you have visited to make sure, right?) the SBCC route is worth considering. Contrasted to all the other UCs I know about, you get a lot more of the UC experience even while a CC student.</p>
<p>oh that ****es me off that i had no idea about the tropicana gardens dormrooms. i would have totally signed up before march 25 (the due date) but if i signed up now id be put on the waiting list, and i dont know if i can depend on that. i want the dorm experience my freshman year so badly.</p>
<p>sockherplayer, one bit of advice (and I hope you don't take this wrong). To succeed at a large state school, whichever one it is, you have to take a lot of initiative. Whether it be getting off the waiting list for a class, getting help from advisors or counselors, getting to know your profs so you can get good recs for grad school or a job, you name it, the burden is on your shoulders to make things happen. Thats just how large schools work.</p>
<p>The reason I'm mentioning this is because of the housing. Sure, some form they put on the web says 3/25 deadline but how do you know if they're full? How many people are on the waiting list? Is there anything you can do to get a room now (like sending in a deposit)? I'm not saying be obnoxious or pushy, but until you try to see if you can get in you won't know.</p>
<p>thanks so much for the information. im thinking about sbcc now. oh my this is crazy. i never thought id be a transfer student</p>
<p>BTW I was looking on the CC website and they mention another place to live in IV, Fontaineblue that is kind of a mix of a dorm and an apartment. See <a href="http://www.adds2u.com/%5B/url%5D">http://www.adds2u.com/</a></p>
<p>is it possible to go to a state school such as sdsu for 1 year and then go to sbcc the second year and then transfer to ucsb the junior year?</p>
<p>im really sorry to haer you guys didnt get in :(</p>
<p>i havnt received a letter yet, so im still clinging to SOME hope (although 11 out of 750 doesnt sound good)</p>
<p>ucmom did you recieve a email the other day from UCSB saying this:</p>
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Thank you for your interest in UC Santa Barbara. We have reviewed
appeals and
had hoped to finish the appeal decision process by May 1.</p>
<p>Although we currently do not anticipate being able to admit any
appeals, we are
holding a small number of exceptional appeals in the event we have
enrollment
space after May 1. We expect to be able to give you a final decision by
May 10.</p>
<p>Again, thank you for your interest and for your patience.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>i know sock didnt get it and sadly was rejected, so i was wondering if there was a correlation or if it is just a coincidence? i dont know how to interpret it...</p>
<p>i pretty much am set on sdsu now, i sent in my SIR today but who knows, a miracle COUlD happed ;p</p>
<p>again, sorry that you guys didnt get in, i can only imagine how i am going to feel when i dont get in, haha.</p>
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is it possible to go to a state school such as sdsu for 1 year and then go to sbcc the second year and then transfer to ucsb the junior year?
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for a procedural question like this, your only reliable source of information is the ucsb admission office. And even then I would get it in writing, not over the phone. </p>
<p>Let me put it this way: if someone on the internet says "yes" and your daughter tries it and 2 years from now ucsb says no, who are you going to complain to? If someone answering the phone at ucsb says yes, same story as above. Unless you find something in an official uc publication saying its ok, I wouldn't try it.</p>
<p>I understand asking the question here since you're probably just looking for information, not a guarantee. But I doubt any answers you get are going to be from UC adcoms, so they're just guesses. (My guess, BTW, is it would work).</p>
<p>I hope some of you guys get in, I just sent in my decision to not enroll, if that helps at all.</p>
<p>an addendum for ucmom -- even if the plan could theoretically work, my prediction is that in practice the plan of "1 year sdsu, 1 year sbcc, xfer to ucsb" is a recipe for a degree from sdsu.</p>
<p>If you read this forum for a while you'll see that students who are bitterly disappointed at being rejected from their #1 choice (on these forums, often an ivy or elite LAC) end up happy at the college they do attend, often within weeks or months. I'd add as evidence that its pretty well known that the 3:2 programs don't really work. These are programs where a student who wants an engineering degree but also want a liberal arts education enroll at a LAC where they are supposed to spend 3 years. At the end of the 3 years they are guaranteed admission to the engineering school at some U. Often both the LAC and U are highly rated. But what happens is that most students who start these programs never transfer because they don't want to leave their friends and a school they've come to enjoy.</p>
<p>So while you can't predict for any one person, just averages, here's what I'd expect. A student enrolls under your recipe intending to go to SBCC a year later. But they picked sdsu in the first place so they could get that college feel, live in the dorms, and so on -- in other words, an enjoyable 1st year. The problem is, it works! Try to tell a student at the end of their frosh year they have to say goodbye forever to the friends they've made, leave behind the place they've come to appreciate if not love, and strike out for some place they're only going to spend a year before yet another uprooting. While those most dedicated to the degree from ucsb might leave, my prediction is that many kids in this scenario would resist and end up staying at sdsu. </p>
<p>Something to think about, anyway ...</p>
<p>one more thing SBCC students can do at UCSB --</p>
<p>On the page <a href="http://www.sbcc.cc.ca.us/transferacademy/index.php?sec=821%5B/url%5D">http://www.sbcc.cc.ca.us/transferacademy/index.php?sec=821</a> it lists the "UCSB lecture experience" which are actual UCSB courses that SBCC students are welcome to visit. While not for credit, it will expose you to ucsb courses and of course if you attend regularly you'll get to know some ucsb students.</p>
<p>"In fact SBCC (Santa Barbara CC) has a program that guarantees you can transfer to UCSB."</p>
<p>Every single California Community College is eligibile for this program, so if there is a CCC more convientent for the author of this post, you can take advantage of that.</p>
<p>As someone who did the guaranteed transfer thing to UCSB this year, I can say it's VERY VERY easy (that is, assuming your major is one that qualifies to the program).</p>
<p>Pretty much anyone who REALLY wants to be at UCSB can make it happen if they go with the community college route.</p>
<p>Mikemac, thanks for your wisdom. We talked about all the scenarios and my daughter has decided to go to SDSU. She really wants to experience the dorm life for her freshman year and is starting to be open to the idea of being a SDSU Aztec. She can always go to a UC for graduate studies. I do believe you are right, that she will love it once she gets there! They have a football team and the beaches in San Diego are beautiful. She should also do well academically since she is well above the stats of the average SDSU student. I appreciate the info about sbcc, but not comfortable with her living in an IV apartment/house as a freshman. Thanks for all your input and best of luck on your future success!</p>
<p>ucmom, best of luck to your daughter at sdsu. SD is a wonderful area and I bet she'll like it. BTW she might want to look into the honors programs at sdsu since she is likely eligible for them.</p>
<p>Thanks Mikemac! We have a cousin who lives there and can watch out for her if she has any probs and she has friends who are freshmen there now and some who are going next year. Oh and she is on the waiting list for the honors program. Hopefully we'll find out in the next couple of weeks when all the SIR's are in.</p>