Appeal

<p>Dear people,</p>

<p>Can we please stop having people ask "Is this GPA good enough for this or that?"
These questions are totally meaningless as the GPA contributes to only a fragment of the application process. </p>

<p>I know of people who had 1200 odd in SAT and still got into Ivy league colleges. </p>

<p>My point is - have faith in your scores. Build up the rest of your application and there shouldnt be any problems!</p>

<p>Signed,
A concerned CC-er (is that what we are?)</p>

<p>These "queeries" are what fuels the boards come deadline time. The anxious applicants come here to make themselves feel superior or to gain some feeling of confidence that they don't get in their real life communities.</p>

<p>hmm... possible
I find them kinda useless though</p>

<p>What are my chances are better as SAT, GPA, EC's and estimation of essays and recos are provided..</p>

<p>Just GPA and SAt are kinda pointless....</p>

<p>Some people are always like that. I don't think I have ever visited the What are my chances? Forum. It always seemed kind of pointless to me. No one here can adequately gauge actual chances to be accepted, but some people seem to need some kind of reassurance that they are good enough or whatever else they are looking for.</p>

<p>Lots of behaviors that anxious people do are meaningless.........wringing of hands, obsessive thoughts, pulling hair out. Coming to CC and posting questions that don't have answers is just one more manisfestation of obsessive behavior by the overly anxious.</p>

<p>scarletleavy.. It might help..</p>

<p>Atleast relatively.. better than just GPA and SAT :)</p>

<p>Perhaps it might. I just find some of them quite amusing.</p>

<p>It might help what? I don't undertand your comment? Scarlet knows where she is going.........hehehe</p>

<p>Indeed she does.</p>

<p>In "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus", the author identified that when men talk, they are looking for possible courses of action; and when women talk, they are looking for empathy. This causes a lot of problems because a woman will say that she is having trouble at work and just wants someone to say "Oh, that's terrible. Tell me about it.", but her boyfriend/husband will say "You should talk to you boss and it that doesn't work, go to human resources".</p>

<p>Some of the "Am I good enough for...." posts are probably just looking for affirmation, not advice.</p>

<p>By some you mean if we can determine the OP to be a female we respond in one fashion and male another? I guess we need to make two + the obvious gender confused threads: I cannot believe you but it sure does make for some fun reading..........hehehe </p>

<p>Charlotte, the female, didn't need all of that girlie reinforcement........she must be getting it in her real life.</p>

<p>dufus.....ur right.....ppl do indeed post these things just for affirmation and to know that "someone else in this world thinks the same way as I do."
and CC is one place to do that..........face it....when the time comes, all of us sooner or later come here and start a new thread saying......will someone read my essay....will someone say if I am good enough...will someone say if my ECs/SATs/Grades are good or bad....</p>

<p>and i think the least we could do is give an honest opinion..... just think how anxious the person who asked this might be......responding to his post will put him at ease...................</p>

<p>More importantly...we need a mascot!</p>

<p>Oh that conjures up some images alright. Let me see the best animal example of "seekig approval" would be:</p>

<p>Actually, I think it's quite poaaible to assess chances given the right info. GPA is useless, but class rank and calibre of school os very telling. SAT scores, while not everything, are key. It's unlikely a non hooked candidate will get in with below average scores. Number of APs and scores are supporting info. ECs, again subjective can also be very telling (national honors, something beyond...).</p>

<p>So for non top 15, it really is very possible to give meaningful input. For top 15 it's less easy, as recs and essays weigh so heavily, but hardly difficult to see who has little chance.</p>

<p>The problem here is this is so much misguided, though well meaning info. The "I know someone with a 1200 who got into Harvard" comments. "They look at the whole person and will ignore your 30% rank."</p>

<p>While at ivies and similar it becomes random, it is only so for those with everything they want in place.</p>

<p>The OP was about asking people not to post threads asking for advice from people who really have very little way of knowing. If you had the entire application for some people, you could only make an educated guess. When the poster says that they are worried about having a certain gpa and provide no other information, it does look as if they may just be looking for a little support. Of course, a person can look for both support and advice at the same time. There is more advice than empathy at CC.</p>

<p>The "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" is quite well known as a psychology book. Check it at amazon at:
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006016848X/103-8424410-7939825?v=glance&n=283155%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006016848X/103-8424410-7939825?v=glance&n=283155&lt;/a>
It has causes a certain amount of debate. The generalizations in it are generalizations and don't apply to everyone, of course. (In particular, my sister is from Mars, not Venus.) I think sometimes that political correctness has devalued generalizations. Generalizations can be useful. Among other things, they enable doctors to diagnose diseases. Everyone at CC is generalizing about SAT scores, and everything else in order to get a better grab on what's happening.</p>

<p>I read that book and thought it was mostly bull. The reason being what dufus mentioned - generalizations are way too broad and have very little actual evidence. People are complex beings and can't be categorized just by their sex. John Gray is like the gender stereotyper from hell. His earlier works were much better. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0931269016/qid=1138298537/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_10/104-5698269-8904710?s=books&v=glance&n=283155%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0931269016/qid=1138298537/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_10/104-5698269-8904710?s=books&v=glance&n=283155&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Is that your way of saying Gray's work is culture specific???</p>

<p>Yea, but any male who has been stuck in one of the "Let's talk about our relationship." conversations suspects that there is some basic difference between the male and female brains. </p>

<p>I think generalizations are useful so long as they are not applied to the individual. It seems okay to say that females brains are better at multitasking but male brains are better at focused activities such as chess, just so long as you don't assume it is true for all males and females. (Incidently, there has never been a female chess grandmaster in the true sense. They created a special much lower category of grandmaster for women.)</p>

<p>Next you're going to start talking great chef's: Alice Waters for example.</p>