Applications Growth - Class of 2014

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<p>Maybe they just haven’t reported the numbers yet. Carnegie Mellon was in today’s paper, up 16% over last year’s record number.</p>

<p>American +12%
Bowdoin +1%
Brown +20%
U of California System +2%
Cal State System +50%
Carnegie Mellon +16%
Chicago +42%
U Conn +1%
Connecticut College +10%
Cornell +5%
Dartmouth +4%
Delaware +7%
DePauw +18%
Drexel +19%
Duke +11%
George Washington +3%
Georgia Tech +13%
Harvard +5%
Hawaii-Manoa +25%
Illinois Urbana-Champaign +3%
Hopkins +13%
Loyola (MD) +30%
UMBC +5%
Maryland-College park “down”
Middlebury +15%
UMN Twin Cities +10%
MIT +5%
Northwestern +9%
Penn State +4%
Penn +17%
Princeton +19%
Richmond +9%
Rice +9%
Rutgers +5%
Stanford +5%
Swarthmore +8%
Temple -11% (vs. this time last year – deadline is 3/1)
Tulane +10%
Union +3%
Vanderbilt +13%
Vassar +3%
Villanova +10%
Virginia +3%
Washington and Lee +6%
Wesleyan +6%
Whitman (no change)
Williams +3%
Yale -0.7%</p>

82

<p>“Maybe they just haven’t reported the numbers yet.”</p>

<p>Some schools routinely report this at the end of March (or) when acceptances (and the r word) go out.</p>

83

<p>Yeah, in the end, no news is… no news.</p>

84

<p>University of Miami. 2009=21,845 2010=about 25,300. So…+14%?</p>

<p>American +12%
Bowdoin +1%
Brown +20%
U of California System +2%
Cal State System +50%
Carnegie Mellon +16%
Chicago +42%
U Conn +1%
Connecticut College +10%
Cornell +5%
Dartmouth +4%
Delaware +7%
DePauw +18%
Drexel +19%
Duke +11%
George Washington +3%
Georgia Tech +13%
Harvard +5%
Hawaii-Manoa +25%
Illinois Urbana-Champaign +3%
Hopkins +13%
Loyola (MD) +30%
UMBC +5%
Maryland-College park “down”
Miami (FL) +14%
Middlebury +15%
UMN Twin Cities +10%
MIT +5%
Northwestern +9%
Penn State +4%
Penn +17%
Princeton +19%
Richmond +9%
Rice +9%
Rutgers +5%
Stanford +5%
Swarthmore +8%
Temple -11% (vs. this time last year – deadline is 3/1)
Tulane +10%
Union +3%
Vanderbilt +13%
Vassar +3%
Villanova +10%
Virginia +3%
Washington and Lee +6%
Wesleyan +6%
Whitman (no change)
Williams +3%
Yale -0.7%</p>

85

<p>Adding the statistics for Washington University in St. Louis for the Class of 2013 applications, per WUSTL Student Life News’s article “Record number apply to school…” : [Powered</a> by Google Docs](<a href=“http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:1y9Urae-2VkJ:www.studlife.com/media/pdf/2008-2009/09-04-20.pdf+applications+2013&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShEwrz_V1eF4fTUS-j4CNE7Hq0xh40ZvTx_FrynHQ1qF-9aI2cUiZBuA0HJqt4gM1szscbMa9NzsATTwPFIfexIgCFgLZek1ydVpwZ6W6FjEToOF7ufU46Aunb_7QAdgDHX7qLF&sig=AHIEtbR2KTK5oj5ayn1JjCNA84pZfHWa9w]Powered”>http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:1y9Urae-2VkJ:www.studlife.com/media/pdf/2008-2009/09-04-20.pdf+applications+2013&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShEwrz_V1eF4fTUS-j4CNE7Hq0xh40ZvTx_FrynHQ1qF-9aI2cUiZBuA0HJqt4gM1szscbMa9NzsATTwPFIfexIgCFgLZek1ydVpwZ6W6FjEToOF7ufU46Aunb_7QAdgDHX7qLF&sig=AHIEtbR2KTK5oj5ayn1JjCNA84pZfHWa9w)</p>

<p>American +12%
Bowdoin +1%
Brown +20%
U of California System +2%
Cal State System +50%
Carnegie Mellon +16%
Chicago +42%
U Conn +1%
Connecticut College +10%
Cornell +5%
Dartmouth +4%
Delaware +7%
DePauw +18%
Drexel +19%
Duke +11%
George Washington +3%
Georgia Tech +13%
Harvard +5%
Hawaii-Manoa +25%
Illinois Urbana-Champaign +3%
Hopkins +13%
Loyola (MD) +30%
UMBC +5%
Maryland-College park “down”
Miami (FL) +14%
Middlebury +15%
UMN Twin Cities +10%
MIT +5%
Northwestern +9%
Penn State +4%
Penn +17%
Princeton +19%
Richmond +9%
Rice +9%
Rutgers +5%
Stanford +5%
Swarthmore +8%
Temple -11% (vs. this time last year – deadline is 3/1)
Tulane +10%
Union +3%
Vanderbilt +13%
Vassar +3%
Villanova +10%
Virginia +3%
Washington University in St. Louis +5%
Washington and Lee +6%
Wesleyan +6%
Whitman (no change)
Williams +3%
Yale -0.7%</p>

86

<p>The list reordered by change over previous year as reported in this thread: </p>

<p>-11% (vs. this time last year – deadline is 3/1) Temple<br>
“down” Maryland-College park<br>
-0.7% Yale<br>
Whitman (no change)
+1% Bowdoin<br>
+1% U Conn<br>
+2% U of California System<br>
+3% George Washington<br>
+3% Illinois Urbana-Champaign<br>
+3% Union<br>
+3% Virginia<br>
+3% Vassar<br>
+3% Williams<br>
+4% Dartmouth<br>
+4% Penn State<br>
+5% Cornell<br>
+5% Harvard<br>
+5% MIT<br>
+5% Rutgers<br>
+5% Stanford<br>
+5% UMBC<br>
+5% Washington University in St. Louis
+6% Washington and Lee<br>
+6% Wesleyan<br>
+7% Delaware<br>
+8% Swarthmore<br>
+9% Northwestern<br>
+9% Richmond<br>
+9% Rice<br>
+10% Connecticut College<br>
+10% Tulane<br>
+10% UMN Twin Cities<br>
+10% Villanova<br>
+11% Duke<br>
+12% American<br>
+13% Georgia Tech<br>
+13% Hopkins<br>
+13% Vanderbilt<br>
+14% Miami (FL)
+15% Middlebury<br>
+16% Carnegie Mellon<br>
+17% Penn<br>
+18% DePauw<br>
+19% Drexel<br>
+19% Princeton<br>
+20% Brown<br>
+25% Hawaii-Manoa<br>
+30% Loyola (MD)<br>
+42% Chicago<br>
+50% Cal State System </p>

<p>Good luck to all of you awaiting admission news.</p>

87

<p>Back in 2008 or so, I wrote a FAQ expressing the opinion that admission would continue to become more competitive at some colleges, despite declining numbers of high school graduates in the United States: </p>

<p>DEMOGRAPHICS</p>

<p>Population trends in the United States are not the only issue influencing the competitiveness of college admission here. The children already born show us what the expected number of high school students are in various years, but the number of high school students in the United States, which is expected to begin declining in a few years, isn’t the whole story.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/ed...nted=2&_r=1&hp[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/ed...nted=2&_r=1&hp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>First of all, if more students who begin high school go on to college, there will be more applicants to college even with a declining number of high school students. And that is the trend in the United States and worldwide.</p>

<p>Second, colleges in the United States accept applications from all over the world, so it is quite possible that demographic trends in the United States will not be the main influence on how many students apply to college. The cohorts of high-school-age students are still increasing in size in some countries (NOT most of Europe).</p>

<p>Third, even if the number of applicants to colleges overall stays the same, or even declines, the number of applicants to the most competitive colleges may still increase. The trend around the world is a “flight to quality” of students trying to get into the best college they can in increasing numbers, and increasing their consensus about which colleges to put at the top of their application lists. I do not expect college admission to be any easier for my youngest child than for my oldest child, even though she is part of a smaller birth cohort in the United States.</p>

<p>And now I would add to this that at the very most selective colleges that have just announced new financial aid plans, next year’s (and the following year’s) crush of applicants will be larger than ever. When colleges that are already acknowledged to be great colleges start reducing their net cost down to what the majority of families in the United States can afford, those colleges will receive more applications from all parts of the United States, and very likely from all over the world. </p>

<p>Some links from that FAQ to journalistic sources have gone dead, but so far it looks like college admission is as competitive as ever at many colleges.</p>

88

<ul>
<li>20% Brown</li>
</ul>

<p>lol Emma Watson
No, really, all the current junior boys at my school want to apply to Brown now because of her. It’s so amusing.</p>

89

<p>“can’t do anytning without a college degree” - Asian75</p>

<p>Uh…Bill Gates, college dropout, ring a bell? Wanna walk that one back? Not to mention all the multi-millionaire and billionaire (in the case of Tiger Woods) pro athletes without college degrees, not to mention actors, singers, etc. </p>

<p>You were saying?</p>

90

<p>Cal Poly San Luis Obispo +12%</p>

<p>[Cal</a> Poly Receives Record Number of Applicants 2010](<a href=“http://www.calpolynews.calpoly.edu/news_releases/2009/December/record_aps.html]Cal”>http://www.calpolynews.calpoly.edu/news_releases/2009/December/record_aps.html)</p>

91

<p>-11% (vs. this time last year – deadline is 3/1) Temple
“down” Maryland-College park
-0.7% Yale
Whitman (no change)
+1% Bowdoin
+1% U Conn
+2% U of California System
+3% George Washington
+3% Illinois Urbana-Champaign
+3% Union
+3% Virginia
+3% Vassar
+3% Williams
+4% Dartmouth
+4% Penn State
+5% Cornell
+5% Harvard
+5% MIT
+5% Rutgers
+5% Stanford
+5% UMBC
+5% Washington University in St. Louis
+6% Washington and Lee
+6% Wesleyan
+7% Delaware
+8% Swarthmore
+9% Northwestern
+9% Richmond
+9% Rice
+10% Connecticut College
+10% Tulane
+10% UMN Twin Cities
+10% Villanova
+11% Duke
+12% American
+12% Cal Poly SLO
+13% Georgia Tech
+13% Hopkins
+13% Vanderbilt
+14% Miami (FL)
+15% Middlebury
+16% Carnegie Mellon
+17% Penn
+18% DePauw
+19% Drexel
+19% Princeton
+20% Brown
+25% Hawaii-Manoa
+30% Loyola (MD)
+42% Chicago
+28% Cal State System</p>

92

<p>+28% California State University = 87% increase in transfer applications, 12% increase in first time freshman applications</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/pa/News/2009/priority-app-story6.shtml[/url]”>http://www.calstate.edu/pa/News/2009/priority-app-story6.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

93

<p>RPI up 8.8% as of 1/27 but not final.</p>

<p>-11% (vs. this time last year – deadline is 3/1) Temple
“down” Maryland-College park
-0.7% Yale
Whitman (no change)
+1% Bowdoin
+1% U Conn
+2% U of California System
+3% George Washington
+3% Illinois Urbana-Champaign
+3% Union
+3% Virginia
+3% Vassar
+3% Williams
+4% Dartmouth
+4% Penn State
+5% Cornell
+5% Harvard
+5% MIT
+5% Rutgers
+5% Stanford
+5% UMBC
+5% Washington University in St. Louis
+6% Washington and Lee
+6% Wesleyan
+7% Delaware
+8% Swarthmore
+9% Northwestern
+9% Richmond
+9% Rice
+9% RPI
+10% Connecticut College
+10% Tulane
+10% UMN Twin Cities
+10% Villanova
+11% Duke
+12% American
+12% Cal Poly SLO
+13% Georgia Tech
+13% Hopkins
+13% Vanderbilt
+14% Miami (FL)
+15% Middlebury
+16% Carnegie Mellon
+17% Penn
+18% DePauw
+19% Drexel
+19% Princeton
+20% Brown
+25% Hawaii-Manoa
+28% Cal State System
+30% Loyola (MD)
+42% Chicago</p>

94

<p>Removed Washington University in St. Louis because that was a statistic for the class of 2013.</p>

<p>-11% (vs. this time last year – deadline is 3/1) Temple
“down” Maryland-College park
-0.7% Yale
Whitman (no change)
+1% Bowdoin
+1% U Conn
+2% U of California System
+3% George Washington
+3% Illinois Urbana-Champaign
+3% Union
+3% Virginia
+3% Vassar
+3% Williams
+4% Dartmouth
+4% Penn State
+5% Cornell
+5% Harvard
+5% MIT
+5% Rutgers
+5% Stanford
+5% UMBC
+6% Washington and Lee
+6% Wesleyan
+7% Delaware
+8% Swarthmore
+9% Northwestern
+9% Richmond
+9% Rice
+9% RPI
+10% Connecticut College
+10% Tulane
+10% UMN Twin Cities
+10% Villanova
+11% Duke
+12% American
+12% Cal Poly SLO
+13% Georgia Tech
+13% Hopkins
+13% Vanderbilt
+14% Miami (FL)
+15% Middlebury
+16% Carnegie Mellon
+17% Penn
+18% DePauw
+19% Drexel
+19% Princeton
+20% Brown
+25% Hawaii-Manoa
+28% Cal State System
+30% Loyola (MD)
+42% Chicago</p>

95

<p>Maybe the posts could have the list both by increasing percent AND alphabetically? I find it much easier to find schools alphabetically. Could we do both? Please?</p>

96

<p>Adding Mount Holyoke College, + 8.6 % (international applicants: +23.6 %)</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/mount-holyoke-college/868031-college-receives-most-applications-history.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/mount-holyoke-college/868031-college-receives-most-applications-history.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>American +12%
Bowdoin +1%
Brown +20%
U of California System +2%
Cal State System +50%
Chicago +42%
U Conn +1%
Connecticut College +10%
Cornell +5%
Dartmouth +4%
Delaware +7%
DePauw +18%
Drexel +19%
Duke +11%
George Washington +3%
Georgia Tech +13%
Harvard +5%
Hawaii-Manoa +25%
Illinois Urbana-Champaign +3%
Hopkins +13%
Loyola (MD) +30%
UMBC +5%
Maryland-College park “down”
Middlebury +15%
UMN Twin Cities +10%
MIT +5%
Mount Holyoke College + 8.6 %
Northwestern +9%
Penn State +4%
Penn +17%
Princeton +19%
Richmond +9%
Rutgers +5%
Stanford +5%
Swarthmore +8%
Temple -11% (vs. this time last year – deadline is 3/1)
Vanderbilt +13%
Vassar +3%
Villanova +10%
Virginia +3%
Washington and Lee +6%
Wesleyan +6%
Whitman (no change)
Williams +3%
Yale -0.7%</p>

97

<p>Adding NYU [NYU</a> > The Office of Public Affairs > NYU Receives Record Number of Freshman Applications](<a href=“NYU News”>NYU News)</p>

<p>American +12%
Bowdoin +1%
Brown +20%
U of California System +2%
Cal State System +50%
Chicago +42%
U Conn +1%
Connecticut College +10%
Cornell +5%
Dartmouth +4%
Delaware +7%
DePauw +18%
Drexel +19%
Duke +11%
George Washington +3%
Georgia Tech +13%
Harvard +5%
Hawaii-Manoa +25%
Illinois Urbana-Champaign +3%
Hopkins +13%
Loyola (MD) +30%
UMBC +5%
Maryland-College park “down”
Middlebury +15%
UMN Twin Cities +10%
MIT +5%
Mount Holyoke College + 8.6 %
NYU +2.3%
Northwestern +9%
Penn State +4%
Penn +17%
Princeton +19%
Richmond +9%
Rutgers +5%
Stanford +5%
Swarthmore +8%
Temple -11% (vs. this time last year – deadline is 3/1)
Vanderbilt +13%
Vassar +3%
Villanova +10%
Virginia +3%
Washington and Lee +6%
Wesleyan +6%
Whitman (no change)
Williams +3%
Yale -0.7%</p>

98

<p>Adding Willamette:</p>

<p>American +12%
Bowdoin +1%
Brown +20%
U of California System +2%
Cal State System +50%
Chicago +42%
U Conn +1%
Connecticut College +10%
Cornell +5%
Dartmouth +4%
Delaware +7%
DePauw +18%
Drexel +19%
Duke +11%
George Washington +3%
Georgia Tech +13%
Harvard +5%
Hawaii-Manoa +25%
Illinois Urbana-Champaign +3%
Hopkins +13%
Loyola (MD) +30%
UMBC +5%
Maryland-College park “down”
Middlebury +15%
UMN Twin Cities +10%
MIT +5%
Mount Holyoke College + 8.6 %
NYU +2.3%
Northwestern +9%
Penn State +4%
Penn +17%
Princeton +19%
Richmond +9%
Rutgers +5%
Stanford +5%
Swarthmore +8%
Temple -11% (vs. this time last year – deadline is 3/1)
Vanderbilt +13%
Vassar +3%
Villanova +10%
Virginia +3%
Washington and Lee +6%
Wesleyan +6%
Whitman (no change)
Willamette +30%
Williams +3%
Yale -0.7%</p>

99

<p>This increase in applications can only mean one thing… you kids are applying to too many schools. You are wasting your parent’s money on application fees, sending SATs to so many schools. You are just feeding the process. This has become another service industry in this country. Schools have to hire more admissions counselors to wade through all the applications, they have to charge higher fees to pay their employees, more kids taking standardized tests more times… CRAZY! From an oldster who walked into the SATs cold, graduated with a BA from a no-name mediocre private college and still managed to get a law degree (JD)… this process has become insane. I modestly allowed my senior to apply to 6 schools. When I see you kids who apply to 12-15 schools I think you are just obsessive.</p>

100

<p>Don’t forget the echo boom, that there were more HS graduates than ever for the past couple of years, and not enough additional seats to absorb them. Our local CC had 2,300 registered students who couldn’t get a single class they needed (but, yes, California is financially broken, the only state in the country to require a 2/3 vote to pass a budget AND a 2/3 vote to raise taxes). Public schools may not like the inundation, but some selective private schools like having more applicants to choose from.</p>