<p>I was reading through descriptions of various major choices at MSU and I came accross Applied Engineering Sciences. It sounded pretty interesting because it teaches you the fundamentals of engineering while also giving you a chance to learn the telecommunication or business (supply chain management) field. I know MSU has a fantastic SCM program, but I dont think this engineering major is ABET accreddited. It looks pretty close to industrial management though, and thats something that sparked my interest. Will this hurt me in the long run? Is taking a non accredited engineering course not worth it? Graduate school is still a possibility for me, so will this hurt my chances for that?</p>
<p>ABET is best known for accrediting engineering programs, but they also offer separate forms of accreditation in related fields, such as computer science, engineering technology, and applied sciences. If a program is ABET accredited in one of these other fields, that’s good, but it is not equivalent to ABET accreditation in engineering. </p>
<p>Grad schools and employers probably would not perceive this degree as equivalent to a traditional engineering degree, even if it does eventually receive ABET accreditation in “applied science”. However, that doesn’t necessarily mean that the degree is worthless, or that it would disqualify you for an engineering job.</p>
<p>if you plan on going to work in the public sector, a non ABET degree could be problematic. most likely in a civil engr related field were you need to be certified/a professional engr/licensed for whatever reasons.
i dont know for sure, but its something i would def look into.</p>
<p>Would I have a tougher time getting into a graduate school, even if it is ABET acredited in ‘applied science’? MSU doesnt offer an industrial engeer major, so I was thinking about going off to graduate school in that area. Would I have a problem with that since this is not technically an engineering major?</p>
<p>Most people who go to engineering grad school obviously have ABET-accredited undergraduate engineering degrees. It is possible to get into engineering grad school without an ABET engineering degree, if you have a degree in a related science. </p>
<p>However, the lack of an engineering degree probably doesn’t help your chances for admission. And if you do get in, you may have to spend extra time in grad school making up undergraduate coursework.</p>
<p>The most informed answers about grad school placement might come from the department faculty.</p>
<p>To be blunt, I would not pursue a non-accredited engineering degree. This does not help you in terms of job placement or graduate admissions. Many traditional engineering programs are a hundred years old and well established with alumni and a solid reputation.</p>
<p>Honestly, the applied engineering science sounds a little shaky. I realize I know nothing about it but it sounds like a watered down engineering degree to me.</p>
<p>Not that I know anything about it, but the phrase “Danger Will Robinson” comes to mind. Perhaps if ABET accredits Engineering Physics programs this would be a more appropriate choice for you. Or just plain sciences. Or… engineering technology?</p>
<p>Without knowing much about it either, I think the AES degree could be worthwhile and employable. I just wouldn’t treat it as an “engineering” degree. It may be more like an industrial management degree with a focus on engineering issues. </p>
<p>There’s nothing wrong with that, if you want a career in engineering management. However, it is probably not the ideal degree if you plan a career as an engineer.</p>
<p>There are some grad engineering programs that absolutely require an ABET B.S. degree. Most will take ABET grads and Math/Physics grads who have engineering electives. Here’sd a school that makes you want to go the ABET route…</p>
<p>Purdue’s engineering graduate school.</p>
<p>If you have a non-ABET: all you can earn is a M.S. Interdisciplinary
If you have a ABET: you can earn a M.S. in Engineering</p>
<p>…and since Purdue is pretty highly ranked, it’s best to be safe.</p>
<p>Thank you, I will pursue an ABET B.S. degree then. A couple of the schools i have applied to offer an ABET industrial engineering major, and i think that is somewhat similar to MSU’s applied engineering sciences. If i end up going to MSU, what is their best undergraduate engineering program?</p>
<p>I actually attended MSU. To be honest, the best engineering program is the one that best meets your interests.</p>
<p>Oh…and one more thing about that Applied Engineering Sciences major at MSU. That major USED to be called Engineering Arts. It was basically a major for engineering students who did not get accepted into the EE, ChemE, ME and CompE programs after sophomore year.</p>
<p>Oo I see, so i am definitely better off with picking either the ME or EE programs. I like how at MSU you get to pick your engineering major baised on how high your GPA is. I think thats pretty sweet and a nice little incentive to do extremely well if you want to be an ME major.</p>
<p>amarch53 - I would be careful with any program that doesn’t follow an engineering curriculum. I happen to work at a college with an “applied engineering” major - but it doesn’t resemble in the least anything like an engineering curriculum. Be sure to have an idea of what you want to do after graduating and be sure the major you choose gets you pretty close. As a registered professional engineer - I’m a total skeptic when it comes to these “applied” engineering majors. The ones I’ve seen aren’t worth the time if you are truly interested in engineering as a profession. Some are actually in engineering schools - I would look at them first.</p>