<p>H hasn’t expelled anyone yet, from the recent investigation.
And, per the Dean I know, the Ivies agree not to share applicant info- of course, we all know they do know each other and talk. But, do you think they go over every name?</p>
<p>-- It seems this problem may be resolving itself. But if an early candidate wants to chnge to RD, he can simply say he does not wish to be considered early. Happens.</p>
<p>Gibby, not all hs are fortunate to have 8+ admits/year. 150 applicants, that many admits, suggests a very limited number of hs.
Kathie, unless you are the only one who heard this kid’s tale, you would always have the option of reporting anonymously.
But, I do hope this goes away on its own- it’s clear you don’t feel comfortable in the position you find yourself in. Good luck.</p>
<p>@Lookingforward, thank you so much for your response, I have few questions though:
If I didn’t report this, would there be any other way of people finding out (both before acceptance and after acceptance)?
If he got deferred and then accepted RD, would there be an issue with breaking scea?
If they find out, would this jeopardize his chances at other schools? (I would hate to do that to someone)?
Is my best option to persuade him to move his app from EA to RD? Could he do this without any serious consequences?</p>
<p>Get your nose out of it. It doesn’t affect you in any way, shape, or form. If he gets found it nothing happens to you. If he doesn’t get found out, nothing happens to you. Don’t report it, you just come off as a pest. What if he would have gotten in to Harvard, but you got him blacklisted, all because he applied a few extra places… You could ruin his college career.</p>
<p>I don’t think you guys understand. I want to do the right thing and I don’t WANT to report him. I really want him to reconsider his actions before he gets into trouble, that is, could he even get into trouble in the first place or are colleges just trying to scare you & there’s no way they could find out?</p>
<p>@Lookingforward, thank you so much for your response, I have few questions though:
If I didn’t report this, would there be any other way of people finding out (both before acceptance and after acceptance)?
If he got deferred and then accepted RD, would there be an issue with breaking scea?
If they find out, would this jeopardize his chances at other schools? (I would hate to do that to someone)?
Is my best option to persuade him to move his app from EA to RD? Could he do this without any serious consequences?</p>
<p>kathie2011: You are not thinking clearly. This kid is obviously lying as your school sends transcripts and SSR’s electronically.</p>
<p>You are going look foolish attempting to talk him out of something he cannot do, or to turn him in to someone for something that is impossible to do.</p>
<p>I’m with Gibby. Chances he managed this are slim.</p>
<p>Even if you speak with this kid, you won’t know if he answers truthfully or does what you ask.<br>
If he is a boaster sort, imo, good chance that self-aggrandizing will come through on the app and he’ll, in essence, trip himself up. Something won’t ring true, some aspect of his judgment will seem superficial or calculating. Most apps do not get to the final round as strong contenders- it’s not all about lotteries or crapshoots. Adcoms are sensitive to the self-presentation.</p>
<p>It’s hard to give advice, because we don’t know your hs, if it has a record of sending multiple kids to elites, how strong your own app is. If you absolutely can’t retreat from this, maybe you or a parent should simply ask the GC to clarify policy, as a starter.</p>
<p>“maybe you or a parent should simply ask the GC to clarify policy, as a starter.”</p>
<p>That’s a wonderful idea. Or, maybe Kathie should go in and see if her gc will let her apply to Harvard SCEA and to MIT EA. Given the restrictions of electronic submissions of transcripts and SSR’s, she will be told “Sorry, no-can-do.”</p>
They CAN NOT legally talk about applicants … there was a court case awhile back and by that settlement they can not share information about applicants or financial air packages offered.</p>
<p>That said they can share information about accepted students and the versions I have heard are that top schools share lists of their ED admits. I can imagine a similar approach with SCEA. Any one schools ED or SCEA program only works if other schools honor other schools programs so I can see the schools collaborating on this.</p>
<p>Sorry, I did not mean they go ahead and break policy, just that many have friendly contact with others. I do not know that they share info about admits.</p>
<p>OP,
Probably the best thing for you to do is go to your GC and ask the GC to clarify the school’s method for handling SCEA applications, to put your mind at ease. </p>
<p>If you REALLY must, after the GC’s explanation, you could say something like " I must have misunderstood BF because he said he was applying SCEA to Harvard and EA to XXXX"…at the same time."</p>
<p>Also, realize that your friend might just be misusing terminology…if your friend is applying to schools that have rolling admissions, he is applying “early” in the scheme of things, but that is allowed under the SCEA programs, and not a violation, and it is not the same thing as applying under a formal EA admissions scheme. Have you actually checked with your friend to see if he understands the different methods and terminologies? Have you talked to your friend about the ethics of the situation, if he is actually trying to gain an unfair advantage? And the ramifications it could have, should he be caught? I am not sure I would want a friend who would rather knife me in my back rather than speak to me face to face.</p>
<p>But give it a rest. The fact that 2 or more students are applying from one school, even SCEA, does not matter to Harvard. If you are both what it is looking for, it will take you both; and if you are not, it will not. They are looking for interesting students, and if you are interesting, they may take you–the fact that your friend is applying does not make your application any more or less interesting.</p>
<p>EVERY applicant to Harvard has high grades and scores. And maybe 6% will be accepted. And for a person who is an ordinary high-stats applicant, without anything really interesting or outstanding in the application, the real chances are somewhat less than that. Especially in the SCEA round. And once deferred out of the SCEA round…none of this is going to matter.</p>