<p>And get into both, can Yale really do anything about it? I didn't apply to either school, but this is a question out of curiosity.</p>
<p>They could rescind your offer of admission. You told them you were only applying top one EA school.</p>
<p>Why would you ask if this was not the case?</p>
<p>And they'd be 100% right to do it too. One want the privileges of SCEA, then one abides by their rules. Skirt them and I hope they get caught and punished every time. This person would be cheating Yale and the other SCEA applicants.</p>
<p>If either school finds out that you broke the contract, then your admission would absolutely be rescinded. Even though MIT is not restrictive, top schools that can afford to reject people are huge fans of solidarity and generally will not treat you very well if you broke another school's rules.</p>
<p>As a sidenote, people who abuse the system like this are disgusting.</p>
<p>hmmm... I would not call them disgusting. Senior year is a LOT of pressure for a young man. This IS a bad choice to make, no doubt, but I can understand someone that really cant wait until march to find out if he has admission to either college.
With this said... DONT do that, though (if youre asking, I think you probably did this or plan to do it)</p>
<p>They're not disgusting. People make poor decisions, that doesn't make them overall a bad person, WishyWashy. </p>
<p>However, I agree though, they should live with the consequences if they do break the rules like that.</p>
<p>I think if you read both colleges' rules, each of them will clearly state that an admission will be rescinded if you violated that college's rules (Yale, by applying somewhere else), or any other college's rules (MIT, by breaking your agreement with Yale).</p>
<p>I don't understand how this can be done......if a hs guidance office is involved?</p>
<p>I'm fairly certain these colleges have linked decision databases, so chances are you would not get far past the day decisions are released before they rescind any offers.</p>
<p>maineparent</p>
<p>I said the same thing in another thread last night until someone reminded me that all guidance offices are not created equal.</p>
<p>Many large publics have weak at best guidance offices with AAs handling the paperwork flow. Additionally, not all are as well versed on the rules and regs of SCEA since they don't have many Yale or Stanford applicants.</p>
<p>This lack of oversite really puts the fate of future applicants in jeopardy with these schools because if found out I am quite confident that Yale and Stanford wouldn't pay much attention to future applications from those schools.</p>
<p>Well it's questionable if MIT will rescind you, since under MIT's plan I assume you are allowed to apply to as many schools as you want early, but Yale certainly will rescind you. But I don't know why you'd do that because it seems quite likely that you'd get caught somewhere.</p>
<p>Yeah, my high school counselor was really really subpar. She would have probably allowed something like this to have occurred. Then again, like 80% of our counselors were new that year, so that might have been the problem.</p>
<p>Yes, Yale can do something about it. Top colleges share lists. If either M or Y figures out what the student did, both acceptances will be revoked. (M will honor Y's single choice policy.) Even without sharing lists, there are a number of ways the colleges could find out what the student has done. Any one of a number of people who figure out what's happened could report him/her. It doesn't need to be the GC. It could be a peer. It could even be an admissions officer reading these boards. Although they don’t often post, they’re here. </p>
<p>The worst part of doing this is that it jeopardizes the chances of future applicants from the HS at both colleges.</p>
<p>Doing so would speak of the applicants honor and ethics. At the end of the Yale application, the SCEA application the applicant signs off on their understanding and acknowledgment of the agreement. Not honoring this contract is cause for recision. At for MIT, why would they want a dishonorable student. I think they would also be highly like to retract their acceptance. Don't be dumb!</p>
<p>It's too risky.</p>
<p>"hmmm... I would not call them disgusting. Senior year is a LOT of pressure for a young man. This IS a bad choice to make, no doubt, but I can understand someone that really cant wait until march to find out if he has admission to either college.
With this said... DONT do that, though (if youre asking, I think you probably did this or plan to do it)"</p>
<p>You can't justify this by saying seniors have a lot of stress.
We ALL have a lot of stress, yet the majority of applicants manage to get into one school or another without cheating the system.</p>
<p>ha well said</p>
<p>The downside risk of doing thing like the OP asked about are just too high to take the chance. Upside find out about a school in addition to Yale (SCEA) ... downside Yale, MIT, and other affliliated schools all reject this dishonest student. I would bet there are pretty good odds the other IVYies and the NESCAC schools (Williams, Amherst, ect) would all find out that this student did not follow the SCEA rules he signed up for ... and all these schools would likely drop the student's aplpication when they find out ... seems like a big downside to me.</p>
<p>The purpose of SCEA, as compared with standard EA processes, is to show an increased commitment to Yale by foregoing your participation in other early consideration programs (with public U "safeties" excepted). If this actually occurred I think you could expect it eventually to be discovered and both admissions revoked. And it is also somewhat likely that they would be revoked at a very inconvenient time for the applicant, such as in the spring or summer after the application season has ended.</p>
<p>I suppose that it could happen inadvertently, if a Yale applicant did not understand the SCEA rules (I don't think there is a "sign-off" like there is in an ED process) and high school administrators do not know to enforce them. I would suggest such an applicant, upon finding out, contact both admissions offices immediately and explain the situation.</p>
<p>The is indeed a sign-off. The is no excuse for not understanding. From my daughter's application:</p>
<p>"Restrictive Early Action Be sure to sign below.</p>
<p>I wish to be considered under Yale's Restrictive Early Action program. I have read and understood the terms of the program on page 1 of the Application instructions and agree to comply with them</p>
<p>Early Action Candidate's signature, date"</p>