<p>I heard from 2 different sources that college admissions to Ivys in general were easier this year. Is that true? I thought they would be harder because more people would apply. Anyone have facts or opinions on this?</p>
<p>we won't know for sure until april ;)</p>
<p>It definitely makes sense that admission to Ivy League schools has gotten easier this year. Since the Ivies are so expensive and the fact that our country is in the midst of a recession, many qualified (and unqualified) applicants are applying to presitigious state schools. In general, expensive public schools should be easier, while cheaper public schools (especially, UVa, UNC, Berkeley, UCLA) should see increased applicants this year.</p>
<p>I think they are harder. Early apps have been up almost everywhere just because of the sheer number of applicants in the class of '09. Also, since practically everyone has heard of the increased competition of our year, more people are applying to more places with the mentality of "I just wanna get in somewhere".</p>
<p>Also jelabidin, regarding the recession, this makes even more sense for applicants to go to private elite universities and not public schools. This is because the top private schools tend to offer very good financial aid, which is why schools like Stanford and Yale have had especially brutal years in admissions since everyone is applying there. I'm guessing Harvard and Princeton will be nearly impossible (percentage-wise) to get into.</p>
<p>The Ivies are very generous with aid. A friend's son is at Darmouth and they are paying 18K because they make less than 250K. That is cheaper than our State school.</p>
<p>Depends which Ivy... Brown and Penn saw a drop in applications while Yale & Columbia increased quite a few</p>
<p>So I guess the perceived "wealthy" schools like HYP will receive increases in apps and consequently a rise in difficulty to get in.. while applicants to other Ivies have less competition</p>
<p>That's interesting, because the two schools I'm most interested in are Wharton and Brown. Lucky me...</p>
<p>Well RD applications might go up, because people will probably want to compare financial aid packages, and it will not correlate to ED because people might have been even more worried than usual about packages during this cycle.</p>
<p>i think RD will go WAYY up</p>
<p>I agree with ^ 100%. I also think that this will be the year that more people are taken off the waitlist than ever before.</p>
<p>does that mean the admit rate for deferred ed applicants will go way down?</p>
<p>Not sure what everyone means. Overall, is this a good year or a bad year for admissions?</p>
<p>this is definitely a BAD year for admissions...
record number of applications + crappy economy (colleges take less kids) = record low acceptance rates. </p>
<p>simple formula</p>
<p>Ahh but you forgot to factor in a few lurking variables which include:
1) Bad economy = less kids apply
2) More apps doesnt equal more kids applying
3) Less kids applying = more waitlist acceptances
4) Crappy economy= less financial aid= less students accepting offers from some colleges
5) Crappy economy= less ppl applying to business schools= wharton, stern and Georgetown business have more spots
6) College tuition rates go up (meaning half of us won't be able to afford top tiers anyway)</p>
<p>I miss anything?</p>
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<li>why would less kids apply? just cuz they get in doesnt mean they have to go so I don't see why they wouldn't apply away</li>
<li>what? dont get it</li>
<li>what? dont get it</li>
<li>actually financial aid from top universities are getting better even this year, go figure</li>
<li>um. not sure, you might be right cuz ppl might be like "oh noes, no more ibanking...screw business"</li>
<li>financial aid. if anything, the institutions that will see declining apps will be the poorer mid-tier private schools</li>
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Ahh but you forgot to factor in a few lurking variables which include:
1) Bad economy = less kids apply
2) More apps doesnt equal more kids applying
3) Less kids applying = more waitlist acceptances
4) Crappy economy= less financial aid= less students accepting offers from some colleges
5) Crappy economy= less ppl applying to business schools= wharton, stern and Georgetown business have more spots
6) College tuition rates go up (meaning half of us won't be able to afford top tiers anyway)</p>
<p>I miss anything?
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<li>Wrong. Less apply to ED because kids don't want to be binded to a school and not be able to pay. RD is totally different.</li>
<li>True, but the average number of schools kids apply to every year has been increasing.</li>
<li>True, but there aren't less kids applying; so, False.</li>
<li>True, but doesn't have to do with # applying.</li>
<li>False. The economy in 5 years -- after kids graduate -- will be different than right now.</li>
<li>They've always been going up.</li>
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<p>So, whats the final verdict?</p>
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<li>Definitely wrong. The economy is going to be much different in 5 years. The curriculum at top business schools like Wharton are obviously being drastically rejigged because of the current crisis. Wharton grads four years from now will be incredibly valuable and sought after because they will have studied what went wrong with the economy and why.</li>
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<p>hahha @ aznpersuaszn.. i dont get 2 and 3 either :/</p>