<p>I am international student admitted to LSA at UMich. I am a Applied Math/Actuarial Math major but I dont think I will be really interested in Ross. (also its really hard to get into) </p>
<p>Will I be at disadvantage at UMich while applying for intersnhips and jobs in NYC and Wall Street as a Math major?</p>
<p>Yes, LSA has poor recruiting. You will need to try much harder than them.
Really depends on what you want to do. Most Ross kids are not quants or do high-frequency trading. Most of them do investment banking, consulting, accounting etc…</p>
<p>I’d only do Math if you’re deadset on highly quantitative career and truly love math.
If you’re just interested in business in general, apply during your first year. Also, don’t take calc if you already have credit it. If you’re still interested in being quantitative, start taking those math classes for a minor or get a dual degree in Business and Actuarial Math your sophomore, not freshman year. </p>
<p>Your goal is to get the highest GPA possible freshman year.
That said, I’ve know a few Math majors who work at Goldman Sachs and other F500 companies, but it’s still a more difficult road than the BBA.</p>
<p>Also, when you’re on campus. You’ll be getting ■■■ from Ross kids for being in LSA, even though you’ll be doing math problems they couldn’t wrap their minds around.</p>
<p>it seems like your career goals are all over the place… you mentioned future plans of applying to top Ph.D programs in math in another thread. now you’re talking about applying for wall street internships… also, if you have any chance of gaining admittance into the top Ph.D programs you mentioned in the other thread, then you will have absolutely no problem getting into Ross</p>
<p>But the Math department has a wonderful club (forgot the name) that brings in many, many recruiters for both the Actuarial and Math Financial track students. They are very successful at placing students. Call the department to discuss this further. They would be very happy to talk to you about it. </p>
<p>@nubswitstubs - Actually sir, my main aim IS to get a great Math PhD program. The thing is I am an international student with limited resources. I can pay the 250k for undergrad BUT not for anything else.
So if I didnt get into a good PhD program with full funding I will be basically screwed as a normal BA/BS in Math has absolutely no value in my home country.
<p>Can you please elaborate on this? </p>
<p>if you have any chance of gaining admittance into the top Ph.D programs you mentioned in the other thread, then you will have absolutely no problem getting into Ross</p>
<p>What exactly is needed to get into Ross? I will try my GPA to be great but what else is needed ?</p>
<p>Okay one more question, will I be decreasing my chances of getting admitted into grad school PhD in Math by taking Acturial Math courses rather than Applied Math or Pure Math ones?</p>
<p>you should learn more about math phd programs, if that is what you actually want to pursue. in order to get into the top programs, you will need very strong research experience. instead of doing internships, most successful applicants spend their summers doing research. similar to what I said before, if you are actually a strong enough math student to be considering the top phd programs, then you will not have issues (even as an international student) finding a job in the US with a math major.</p>
<p>the difficulty of getting into top math phd programs is incomparable to getting into Ross. top math phd programs are likely the hardest graduate programs to get into across any field – your competition will literally be some of the smartest students in the world. if your goal is to get a math phd then do NOT do a BBA – it is useless for that career track.</p>
<p>admissions into Ross are supposed to be holistic. basically, get a high GPA and become involved in some on-campus student orgs that demonstrate your interest in business. the acceptance rate is ~33%, which is relatively high considering the pool of applicants. </p>
<p>why exactly do you want to do get a math Ph.D? it sounds like you are interested in actuarial math, where research is not usually a focus.</p>
<p>if your end goal is getting a math phd, you should focus on taking pure courses.</p>
<p>I’f you’re anywhere near good enough to get into a top PhD program in Math you will have no trouble getting a job in the US with a math degree. The only way you should be worried about a job is if you’re no where near good enough to get into a Math PhD program, in which case you should just disregard it as an option. </p>
<p>You really do need to figure out where you stand and what you want to go for, because the best way to get a job out of undergrad is very different from the best way to get into a Math PhD program. Again, since you’re not even a freshman you do have some time to figure this out, but right now this contingency planning is useless because you’re talking about 2 radically different things. </p>
<p>@Vladenschlutte </p>
<p>for the top PhD program ( Harvard, Princeton, Stanford , Caltech, UChicago) any other school I should include in that?</p>
<p>Dont you think a good research experience from UMich can get me atleast UMich for PhD?</p>
<p>for a fact I am not sure if I get into those HPS Caltech UChicago for PhD…thats why I am worried for job. I mean all those 5 schools are crapshoot anyways.</p>
<p>BUMP</p>
<p>If you have any shot at all in any way at those schools you’ll get a job. </p>
<p>In this 2014 ranking, Michigan is in a 3 way tie for 9th. In my view, if you take out the higher-level ties, Michigan is ina cohort which ranks it 5th or so in the country. As a by-the-way, I’ve watched the math program ranking for years and it generally hovers around the 6th or 7th position nationally: <a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/mathematics-rankings”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/mathematics-rankings</a></p>
<p>BUMP. </p>
<p>@Vladenschlutte What sort of jobs will be available outside of academia if I dont get accepted for PhD program and I have mostly just Math courses on my resume?</p>
<p>honestly, I’ve heard so many regrets and depressing stories from grad students. </p>
<p>Unless, you want to become a Doctor/pharmacist/Dentist/Professor or any other professionally licensed degree don’t go for grad school.
Even for a lawyer, it’s not worth it. </p>
<p>Math is still great for consulting. Better off graduate and see what jobs you can find, then consider grad school</p>