<p>Math - 740, Reading - 580, Writing - 650.
SAT II - Math 2C 790, Physics 770.</p>
<p>My extracurriculars aren't too bad either; national karate champion for three consecutive years and vice captain of varsity soccer team. I am also almost always placed first in Class. The reason my SAT scores are so low is that I'm an international student and my english isn't exactly top-notch.</p>
<p>Overall I'm pretty confident about every part of my application except the SAT scores. So do you think I have any chance of getting into Yale, Harvard, Princeton or Dartmouth.</p>
<p>I have also applied to Williams, Amherst and Middlebury. What are my chances of getting into those?</p>
<p>This is my first post at CC so please forgive me if I'm not supposed to ask these types of questions or if I have posted this in the wrong section. </p>
<p>^^ Clearly the linguistically competent would know. Rised is past tense and not even a word. </p>
<p>You scores aren’t awful, but they aren’t exactly typical of ivy. E.g. your reading is extremely low for ivy or any top school. I’d say there is a small chance (small being < 5%). You may want to consider schools that are not HYPSM.</p>
<p>^ Hmmm hints of immaturity in that post. Sorry to be harsh, but his scores are way too low for HYPSM. Also, you could have just told me I made a mistake. I just woke up when I made that post. People make mistakes.</p>
<p>“Yale, Harvard, Princeton”: as an unhooked median statted applicant has a 5% chance, your chance with <25% stats is less than 1%. I even think a coach using the back door would have difficulty getting admissions to approve an athlete with 1320 SAT.</p>
<p>“or Dartmouth”.: as an unhooked median statted applicant has 9% chance, then your chance with <25% Stats is about 2%.</p>
<p>^ nobody cares about the Writing score… but no matter, 1320 CR+M is about the same as 1970 CR+M+W.</p>
<p>sorry, missed your sentence about Williams, Amherst & Middlebury. They are about equivalent to Dartmouth.</p>
<p>As to where your stats actually DO match, check out USNWR National Unis ranked around 40-60, and LACs ranked about 20-40. Above that is reach, but by all means apply to several reaches.</p>
<p>Don’t worry about it. Colleges look holistically at your application. Your grades and extracurriculars are far more important than your SAT scores alone.</p>
<p>That being said, your scores are on the lower end - but they are not terrible. Don’t give up - you still have a chance at the best schools. Don’t let anyone else discourage you.</p>
<p>Do you have any other safety schools ? You are competing against the highly qualified international pool of students. Many of them are bringing 2200 to 2400 scores. The math/science applicants will have 800s across the m/s board. Ivies are looking for applicants that can succeed in the liberal arts curriculum which requires excellent reading and writing skills.</p>
<p>@dunnin: the writing score does matter OP, don’t listen to him. i dare anyone on this whole board to prove that the writing score does not matter. maybe one school said it didnt.</p>
<p>think about it, colleges want high scores because they have to release them to the public. writing is obviously released and the median is the same as CR/Math.</p>
<p>Op, your SAT II way above IVy medium, your SAT I could improve</p>
<p>I’ve noticed that people who’ve scored 800 on the writing section of the SAT are often admitted to top schools more easily than others (~30% acceptance rate for 800 W at MIT, if I’m not mistaken, and ~25% at, ugh, Princeton? Amherst? I don’t remember the exact numbers, but they were quite telling), but I think that may be a case of ‘correlation is not causation.’</p>
<p>In any case, the Writing section should be given more weight than it currently carries, in my opinion–not because of the essay portion, which is a joke, but because of the MC questions, which measure literacy. And there are some schools that acknowledge that; even places like UChicago, which only uses CR+M, look at the writing score (it’s considered ‘supplemental’ at UChicago). But it’s not generally regarded as equal to the M and CR sections.</p>
<p>dhs911230: you post is self contradictory. </p>
<p>IF pefect score applicants are rejected, then
there must therefore be selection criteria more important than test scores, or selection is completely random.</p>
<p>In either case, the lower statted applicant is not shut out.</p>
<p>@DunninLA: That’s good to know. Don’t you think top colleges like Yale or Princeton would use the SAT score as a determinant as to whether they should even go through or application? I mean, they might be using the SAT scores to filter out students because they think such students simply have no chance? Or do they really take the time to go through the whole application, in spite of low SAT scores.</p>