Article in Spec about class of 2013

Colleges and Universities A-Z Barnard College
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<p>Newbie alert! I guess for some high school students its a big deal to wear a sweatshirt with their chosen college name on it. Kid stuff, but I can see why it makes them feel proud during the last month of their senior year, especially so they can show off to the sophs and juniors. </p>

<p>When my daughter was a high school senior, her boyfriend was already in college. She went off to visit him in October, and naturally came home with wearing a black sweatshirt emblazoned with his college’s name, which she wore all the time. </p>

<p>Springtime rolled around and my daughter didn’t seem interested much in school-labeled paraphernalia… all I remember was the NYU tote bag which she picked up at their preview day – she visited Barnard on spirit day, but it was also her birthday and she got bored quickly with the presentations and didn’t bother with any uptown shopping. </p>

<p>In any case, with a planned move to sophisticated city like Manhattan, I think my daughter was a little more fashion conscious when it came to choosing college attire. Sweatshirts? She shopped at Forever 21 and thumbed through Elle for ideas, and obsessed about her footwear. </p>

<p>Of course… college started and winter came with rain and sleet and snow. Common sense won out and my daughter started wearing practical sturdy shoes, jeans & layered tops. One day in late February she had to go talk to a prof about something or another, and happened to be wearing her favorite, somewhat tattered, hooded sweatshirt.</p>

<p>The prof looked at the college name on the front, did a double-take, and asked, “you go to Berklee College of Music???” </p>

<p>She grinned & said “yep, – but it is a rough commute”…</p>

<p>and there ends the sweatshirt story.</p>

<p>To Columbia13: No one C-A-R-E-S about the stupid sweatshirts. Congratulations on being admitted to Columbia. I note from your posting history that you have done 2 things: Post your SAT score over in the Columbia forum and come over to the Barnard forum with a rather pathetic attempt to call attention to the fact that you managed to get into Columbia. Come back next December and post your GPA – we’ll see how well you fare.</p>

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<p>By that logic, Columbia college students shouldn’t buy Columbia sweatshirts but should get Columbia College sweatshirts.</p>

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<p>Karot – I think we all know that when you ask a senior in high school where they will be in the fall, and they reply “Columbia”, you assume Columbia College. As such, when a high school senior wears a sweatshirts that reads “Columbia”, or even “Columbia University”, it implies Columbia College…especially when there are Barnard sweatshirts that could just as easily be bought.</p>

<p>Calmom – It’s not a matter of “caring” – I’m not really sure what it means to “care” or “not care” about a sign or a sweatshirt. It’s about the practical implication of that sign or sweatshirt – a lie. As for my GPA next December, who knows how it will be…not so sure why you “care” all that much.</p>

<p>To all those infuriate members of the Barnard forum – if you go to Columbia’s forum, you will see a thread with almost 13 pages…filled with posters debating this issue. I urge you to read Columbia2002’s posts, as he is not trying to deride Barnard students. He is trying to “call a spade a spade”, as he says. That’s it – just a matter of reality.</p>

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<p>Um, reality as constructed by elitist Columbia students. I don’t think we have to accept these views as universally true.</p>

<p>Really, I think if I were a prospie the fanatical elitism of Columbia newbies would turn me off. Maybe that’s why so many women prefer Barnard where they can escape this immaturity in their dorms if not their classes.</p>

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<p>Ok – if distinguishing one university from another is called elitist, then call me an elitist.</p>

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<p>Let’s go back to the original topic, shall we? No need to waste time on a stupid argument with somebody who hasn’t even stepped foot on Columbia’s campus as a first year student yet. Really, Columbia13, you are making tons of assumptions about Barnard women.</p>

<p>So, in conclusion: congratulations to all who were accepted at both Columbia and Barnard. It is an accomplishment to be accepted by the most competitive women’s college in the country, as the admissions officers comb through all of those applications looking for bold and passionate applicants who will make a difference in the world.</p>

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<p>Columbia13 said:</p>

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<p>you may notice that the thread to which you were referring started back almost exactly three years ago. Pretty much like clockwork, a few newly admitted CC students feel the need to belabor this issue every year, and no Barnard students (and most current Columbia students in general) really even care. They are glad to be where they are.</p>

<p>And personally, we are very excited about celebrating our daughter’s accomplishments as she graduates next month. We plan to attend both the Barnard ceremony and the one that is held University-wide a couple of days later, with all of the students of the colleges and affiliated schools (such as Barnard) of Columbia University gathered as one large group in order to have their degrees officially conferred. It should be quite the joyous spectacle! </p>

<p>Give it a rest, youngster! (I can say that because I have been a grandmother now for just over one week!! :slight_smile: )</p>

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<p>Churchmusicmom, congratulations on your new grandson (or granddaughter, as the case may be)-- as well as your daughter’s upcoming graduation. Hope you enjoy the graduation speaker!</p>

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<p>Columbia13, are you male or female?</p>

<p>I notice that you now have 10 posts, since the time you first “joined” CC on 4/11/09. One was to post your SAT score over on the Columbia board (so typical…) – the other 9 are to come over hear and behave like a spoiled little kid at a womens’ tea party. (There are some standards of courtesy and decorum that Barnard women observe).</p>

<p>I’m guessing that you probably aren’t really a brand new member of CC. Call me crazy, but I’ll bet that you were previously posting as a Harvard wannabe, but after being rejected by Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn & probably Stanford, you have now discovered your “pride” in Columbia, as the highest- US News - ranked university that actually accepted you. Perhaps, under another s/n, you are still holding out on a waitlist for a higher-ranked school? </p>

<p>Who knows. But I would suggest that the best way to show pride in your own school would be to participate in its forum and try to get to know other prospective students there.</p>

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<p>Thanks, calmom! We have a new grandson who is absolutely perfect (of course!). Indeed we are very excited about seeing and hearing HRC speak!!</p>

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<p>Congrats on the grandson churchmusicmom.</p>

<p>Calmom…couldn’t be more wrong. I really wish these things didn’t have to get personal…but I was admitted Early Decision, so your theory about me getting rejected from “Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn and probably Stanford” couldn’t possibly be more unfounded. I “discovered” my pride in Columbia quite a long time ago, so relax buddy! </p>

<p>No response is really necessary at this point, and given your chat-name I would assume you’d be adult enough to silently admit how wrong you are…please don’t disappoint.</p>

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<p>Congrats, churchmusicmom - that is really exciting! </p>

<p>Well Columbia13, all I basically have to say in the end is that I have a Barnard sweatshirt, and I want to get another one at one of the open house weekends for admitted students. If I do happen to get a Columbia t-shirt or sweatshirt, I’m sorry if you find it offensive. But I really have immense pride in my future school. I’m going to be a Barnard student and I would rather be at Barnard rather than at Columbia. I hope that you realize that most (if not all) Barnard women have lots of pride. I think you will once we start school in the fall.</p>

<p>You are right about something that you said in a post a while back: Barnard is a fantastic school. If you are also sticking to your past comment about being friends with Barnard students, I hope that you and I could be friends if we ever cross paths. We could walk down Broadway in our respective sweatshirts (and I didn’t mean that sarcastically).</p>

<p>Cheers.</p>

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<p>haha, i really look forward to that…and I absolutely do stick to my past comment…I really am looking forward to meeting my awesome neighbors!</p>

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<p>I do have a couple of sweat shirt anecdotes. Of course we have the Barnard Dad and Mom shirts and the multicollege blanket that was given out. But I do have two items that are probably related to my being a Californian and not being very weather conscious. On the college tour it was absolutely freezing in Boston, so I bought two MIT sweat shirts and wore them simultaneously and looked like the Pillsbury dough boy. Visiting my daughter at Barnard I got caught in the Columbia bookstore in a downpour and bought the umbrella. I still have it.</p>

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<p>I have a weakness for unusual college accessories and have an assortment of apparel from schools that have little connection with my kids. We’ve picked up a lot of miscellany along the way from early CTY experiences, college tours, admitted students days, and later revisits. My kids and I wear tee shirts and sweat pants and drink from mugs that hale from colleges up and down the prestige ladder. I had no idea that might be a problem!</p>

<p>Mardad, that’s really funny.</p>

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<p>I’m going to wreck with your mind right now. I have a green sweatshirt that says “BARNARD” in big letters and Columbia University on the bottom in tinier letters. Proud of Barnard and proud of the affiliation. Problem solved.</p>

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<p>Hey, I want a shirt just like that!!</p>

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<p>lol Anon_Person. That’s perfect.</p>

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<p>Anon-Person, you hit the nail on the head. I am attending Barnard in the fall and I am very proud of that fact. I specifically wanted to go to Barnard for what it has to offer. But I am also very proud of its affiliation with such a wonderful school as Columbia. They are not mutually exclusive in any way.</p>