Asians?

<p>I've seen this around the CC a lot.. people saying this hurts chances. Just wondering why?</p>

<p>BTW I'm Indian... does that count as diversity or asian? (india is in asia lol)</p>

<p>Asian are not Under-represented minorities at all the liberal colleges and universities (like MIT and Harvard). Indians fit into that category.</p>

<p>It hurts your chances only slightly -- if they compare you to an equally competent (same types of EC's, about the same GPA and SAT's and rank) Hispanic person, the Hispanic person will definitely be the one getting in.</p>

<p>Just hope your last name isn't a typical name like Patel! I advise you never to mark your race down for anything except job applications -- where it seems that Asians are preferred because of their stereotypical "good work ethic."</p>

<p>My name IS patel... so ur saying I should't write that in most applications</p>

<p>^agreed. however: not only are asians not URMS, they are ORMs, or over represented minorities.</p>

<p>lol that sucks... what else do people think about the whole Indian thing?</p>

<p>citybirds27, I'm Southeast Asian-American. It sucks, but we get lumped in with all other Asians as we are SO much like Eastern Asians. Note my sarcasm.. </p>

<p>Don't worry about it. Just write your full name. If you don't want to indicate your ethnicity, then don't.</p>

<p>So does being Indian as in from India( not Native American) hurt? What about when applying to schools like Princeton/Dartmouth that are trying to get rid of the WASP (white anglo saxon protestant) image?</p>

<p>With a common name like patel, they are going to know your ethnicity. You're not fooling anybody by not indicating an ethnicity. In all seriousness though, colleges are not going to reject just because you're an ORM. So a hispanic or african american gets in over you if they have equivalent stats. If your a top student, you will be accepted.</p>

<p>Could you answer my above question?</p>

<p>Yes it hurts to be Asian. Not stereotyping or against any race, but on average, Asians have better test scores. Just based on that, if colleges were picking people, there would be too many Asians vs. other races. Therefore they must set a limit on the number of Asians they can "recruit". So basically, if you're Asian and not the best of the best, you're not going to that really good school. But if you're not Asian (or don't sound like one), you have a better chance if you're scores are really good because it will stand out among the non-Asians.</p>

<p>There are so many asians... and the holistic approach used by colleges wants to give minorities a chance rather than the 80% asians they already have.</p>

<p>I have actually seen a lot of SE(?) Asians from my school receive AA. Perfect example is one who got into Stanford with extremely BAD SAT scores. I don't mean 2100 or even 2000. Kind of amazing. So I don't think they get lumped with the majority of Asians. They get special treatment too...
I think Vietnamese, Philippino, and some others get AA.</p>

<p>What about people from India? I mean together we make up 1% of the American population.</p>

<p>yeah I wish they don't classify us as Asian.. lol even though it's part of Asia.</p>

<p>and even though Patel is the most common name it's still not that popular in Amercia obviously</p>

<p>so basically the colleges are racisits in a way. They favor the minority, rather than the majority. Thats completely fair.<em>Sarcastic</em></p>

<p>So we are not favored even a little bit? Are Indians as hurt as Chinese?</p>

<p>I'd say that for every ethnicity that has an excess of high-achieving individuals, the competition will be very, very fierce.</p>

<p>what if I was born in india and lived there til i was 6 and english wasn't my native language so i "overcomed that obstacle" of not knowing any english at all to being one of smartest in my class.</p>

<p>lol its not an if</p>