<p>@deadwonders: I think 1860 should be able to get you in, definitely bring it up as much as possible. Are you OOS? Are you willing to do summer? Apply early too.</p>
<p>@Lindsayc: I’d say the first one, but I wouldn’t take my word as gospel. I wouldn’t be thinking too much about the personal statement, though, make sure your stats are strong.</p>
<p>If you really want to do summer session, add that on your application (you’ll see where) because that’ll help you get into UP. As will a 2200 though, so I’d definitely take the SAT again if you’re feeling that confident.</p>
<p>alright thanks. i went to have a chat with my counselor today and turned out my gpa was actually a 3.2 so my chances of getting accepted are now higher.</p>
<p>I have one more question, does penn state look at how much interest i have shown in there school when looking at my app? cause i know lehigh takes it into consideration and actually count the number of times you visit their college and stuff. does penn state do that? If so I wanna schedule a flight/drive there to visit and check out things. It will only help me.</p>
<p>Not like I’d be able to give a definite answer considering I’m not in the admissions office, but I’d highly doubt they’d look at something like that. Compare the number of applications Lehigh has to go through to Penn State and you’ll see why.</p>
<p>Visiting is definitely encouraged though (other than for “helping” your application), if you haven’t already.</p>
<p>what do you think about LoRs. I know that they don’t matter much but is it required to hand them in? if i hand them in, will my chances only go up?</p>
<p>I can answer those — they don’t count visits (Duke is correct, the sheer volume of visitors makes that pretty much impossible) and you can mail LoRs but no one at admissions will read them. It’s all about your numbers, how early you apply, which campus you want. (Welcome to Giant Impersonal U!!) I know various sources say you can send them, but they are not read. Have you looked at the bubble chart on the other thread? It’s pretty accurate!</p>
<p>I’m not personally involved in Greek life, but it’s still pretty popular here. I wouldn’t say it’s an annoying popularity, but it’s definitely prevalent.</p>
<p>Hazing is one of those things that is technically illegal or whatever, but everyone knows it still goes on, probably moreso with the frats if I had to guess. I don’t know any specifics, unfortunately, but I’m not too upset about that</p>
<p>hey Duke- when you say you “are not too upset about that” do you mean because you haven’t been personally affected by hazing its not a problem you are concerned about? Or do you mean the whole idea of hazing doesn’t upset you? Or perhaps it doesn’t upset you because don’t kinow the specifics of it? Read the article below- it can give you some specifics. Then let me know what you think of it.</p>
<p>I meant that as a way of saying I haven’t personally been hazed and I’m glad I haven’t. I’ve heard plenty of stories of overly dumb and dangerous stuff frats and sororities do to know that I think it’s pointless and stupid, as well as a valid point of concern for anyone affiliated with Penn State.</p>
<p>Penn State itself is also trying to crack down on hazing (I think it’s Anti-Hazing Week here), so I’ve heard/read enough about it already. In the end, it’s up to the individuals in the Greek system to change their ways.</p>
<p>So I’m not emotionless or ignorant, if that’s what you were getting at.</p>
<p>thanks Duke. I didn’t mean to imply you were emotionless or ignorant- but your comment “I’m not too upset about that” did make me wonder if the prevalent attitude at Penn State was tolerance/acceptance of hazing. It sounds as though its no secret that hazing still goes on since you’ve heard many stories about it.</p>
<p>There is a separate application for the Schreyer Honors College, and requires 3 essays. Best time to get in is as a freshmen to qualify for 4 year honors scholarship. You can be nominated after your freshmen year but there will be no scholarship. They get 2500 to 3000 applications for 300 spots. Those applying are generally top 5% students and they take about 10% of these. Here is a link:</p>