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<p>See if this were my kid i would be on the phone to President Coleman saying “find him a place on campus, preferably a place where he can tunnel to everyplace he ever needs to go” and my kid would be on the other line saying “Mom, it’s okay, I can take care of my self, I’ll be alright, Mom, you are crazy.”</p>
<p>According to the Michigan Daily, Chris will be on the Anderson Cooper show on Wednesday.</p>
<p>Just read the first & latter pages of this thread. </p>
<p>This is even more relevant today because of the recent suicide deaths of gay teenagers. There is no excuse for stalking, harrassment and defamation, whether virtual or literal, because of one’s sexual orientation. None.</p>
<p>I am confident that Chris, because he is Student Gov’t pres, is strong enough to come through this, but still…no one should have to put up with this treatment. Especially from a government official! </p>
<p>And further delay? Incredible.</p>
<p>^^^Right…it is sexual harassment and bullying and in such a public fashion! The fact that it is by a government official is even worse. Thankfully, this young man seems very strong and has his whole university backing him. But it is truly outrageous. I’m glad he is going to be interviewed because he can turn this deplorable set of events into something positive and make a wider impact.</p>
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<p>Haven’t people strenuously attempted to depoliticize the actions of the abuser by presenting them as actions by a private citizen? </p>
<p>Private matter or political matter? Which one is it?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, with elected officials the lines blur between private matters and what affects their position. This was private behavior that would be harassment no matter who did it. The fact it was someone who was involved in law enforcement makes it worse.</p>
<p>Erin’s Dad, well said.</p>
<p>Erin’s Dad,
Exactly. Shirvell’s behaviors were as a private citizen (which he has emphasized as has his employer). As such, they are already abhorrent. There is the ADDED issue that due to the position this guy holds for his job, which requires dealing with justice in fair ways, it calls into question that AS WELL. But as a private citizen harassing this student, bullying him, and stalking him, it is an issue in and of itself. </p>
<p>It is a private matter, indeed. And it involves a college student and the college is involved. </p>
<p>Secondary to that is the issue of how one can hold his job after such actions, given the nature of his job…were it for the government or some other entity where the nature of the job involves dealing with law with the public. I can think of some other jobs whereby such behavior would affect a fair carrying out of the job and where an employer may lose confidence in the employee being considered to be able to work in a fair capacity as seen by the public that the employee works with…such as if Shirvell were a teacher, as one example.</p>
<p>When you are a public official in a position where trust is involved, the private and the public are one and the same, because there isn’t an easy way to separate the two. Recently, a right wing blogger put up a video (that not surprisingly turned out to be doctored) that implied that a black employee of the D of A was biased against whites, and she was fired from her job because of it, because in her position with the D of A she works with white farmers all the time, and her speech could give white farmers the idea that she would give them the shaft if they asked for help. Someone working for the attorney general’s office who goes off the rails at a gay student leader tells gays (and probably also people who are more liberal) tells gays and others that this clown would be no friend to them, that if a bias crime happens against a gay person, or someone is discriminated against illegallly, that he would sit on it. It is very similar to back in the 1950’s and 60’s how blacks and whites doing civil rights work felt knowing that local law enforcement, whose statements equated blacks with animals and civil rights workers as a bunch of traitors to their race and communists, would deal with them. Personal speech has its boundaries when it interferes, either in reality or by perception, with the job they are supposed to do. Trent Lott, speaking at a banquet for Strom Thurmonds 90 something birthday party, made a remark that the country would have been better off if Thurmond, who ran in 1948 on a segregationist/Jim Crowe platform, had won the election, and he was sacked as Senate Majority Leader, because his statement was construed as supporting Jim Crowe and legal segregation, something a senator defending the US constitution is supposed to do.</p>
<p>As I said, there are many job positions where this would be a problem and not just a government employee. If someone holds a position where they are charged with enforcing rules and fairness and so on, and they themselves do not follow those rules, they should not be in such a position as it would call into question their doing the job in a fair and equitable manner, not to mention that the employee should be an example of following rules that he/she is charged with enforcing.</p>
<p>I will be watching Chris Armstrong tonight on Anderson Cooper 360. It will be refreshing to watch someone on this show who is sane, unlike Shirvell and Cox.</p>
<p>Assistant AG Andrew Shirvell has been fired.</p>
<p>[Andrew</a> Shirvell, creator of derisive anti-gay blog, fired by attorney general’s office | The Michigan Daily](<a href=“Andrew Shirvell, creator of derisive anti-gay blog, fired by Attorney General's Office”>Andrew Shirvell, creator of derisive anti-gay blog, fired by Attorney General's Office)</p>
<p>^^^FINALLY!! </p>
<p>I had just learned of this and came here to update the thread but Nrdsb4 already did!</p>
<p>Apparently Shirvell, among other offenses, called Armstrong’s employer from the Attorney General’s office during work hours, posted on his website during work hours, went to Chris Armstrong’s house at 1 in the morning and lied to the other attorneys in his office when they were investigating his conduct. Cox had plenty of evidence to throw Shirvell overboard.</p>
<p>Yay! Finally…</p>
<p>Great news. Glad to hear it.</p>
<p>It’s about time he got fired. This should have been done a long time ago.</p>
<p>That photo just screams “closeted homosexual”.</p>
<p>I’m not sure why. It could be that I’m biased because I know he’s a closeted homosexual. Or it could just be because he’s a closeted homosexual.</p>
<p>Either way, I’m sure we’ll be hearing his side of the story on The 700 Club within a week.</p>
<p>I heard this on the local news … so happy to hear it.</p>
<p>can’t believe it took this long, but YES!!</p>