<p>Truth is, pure logistics suggest Ithaca is going to have more/better internships in NYC than ASU, but in terms of number of internships to choose from ASU wins hands down. I will agree the college and its closeness to and alum relations will result in more better internships, if NYC is a big pull, you’ll likely find more alums in the Northeast with Ithaca who often facilitate internships than you will @ ASU, local alums often enable NYC opportunities/interns music/entertainment alums are great at Ithaca, it will be tougher from AZ, but AZ careers office is much larger than I expect Ithaca’s would be.</p>
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<p>Are you a US citizen living in Europe, or an international student? If the latter, be aware that getting a job in the US means dealing with work visas and the like.</p>
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<p>I’ve just came back to Europe after visiting the ASU Tempe campus. I toured both Barrett Honors and regular ASU campus. Immediately I fell in love with that campus and with what it offers to its students. Even though it is a very large school it seems to me that it’s not overwhelming as long as you get involved in many on campus clubs, intramural sports etc. Barrett Honors seems to be a great small community within such a large state school. Dorms are really nice and everything is so clean and looks like brand-new. On top of that, the weather is awesome compared to the weather where I live. Proximity to downtown Phoenix and airport is another pro of the ASU. All in all, I believe ASU offers everything (ranging from academics, school spirit and on-campus events) I’ve always imagined my ideal college would have. </p>
<p>Right now I’m kind of considering changing my major from finance to supply chain management. ASU is ranked 3rd in SCM nationally, which, from what I heard from current students at ASU really helps to find internship opportunities and network with alumni. </p>
<p>Thank you all for contributing to this thread. </p>
<p>Barrett was opened 2009. It is new. The campus overall is very clean and well-maintained. Meticulously tended gardens, etc. It is easy to fall in love with once you are there. They present well. </p>
<p>Glad you had a good visit and good luck with the decision.</p>
<p>SCM has many job prospects even outside a top-ranked program.
Glad you liked Barrett… I guess you see we weren’t being partial when we said it was a better choice than OU.</p>
<p>I understand that rankings are not the only source of information I should factor it, but majoring in SCM in a school that is reputable and well-known for that major may be very helpful, right?</p>
<p>BTW, I plan on taking prerequisites in accounting, finance and supply chain management during my freshman year to see for myself what the real difference are between these majors and which one of them interests me the most.</p>
<p>Yes, if majoring in SCM at any school has good prospects, all things being equal, majoring in SCM at a great school for it would be even better. </p>
<p>@ucbalumnus @MYOS1634 @Englishman Hi again. I’m having second thoughts about my decision right now and I would like to know your opinions on that matter: ASU or WVU? </p>
<p>In ASU I wil be in a Barrett Honors College and will major in supply chain management most probably (because it is the most reputable major at ASU and recognized nationally) I love the weather and campus. One thing that makes me questioning my decision is the reason that a school is located on the West Coast which I’m not very familiar with. I have family on the East Coast (NJ and NY) and have travelled a lot around the area (New York, Boston, Phily, DC) so I’m more familiar with that region of the country. </p>
<p>Main difference between ASU and WVU is price. ASU Barret Honors College will cost: $12800 after taking $9500 in loans. Cost of health insurance, books and other expenses is not included. (after 4 years at ASU I will have something around $40000 - $45000 in debt) I was wondering if that great supply chain program is really worth it.</p>
<p>WVU costs $9600 after taking $5500 in loans. Again, Health insurance, books etc is not included, but in overall it is really affordable. (I will have national average $27000 in loans)</p>
<p>So right now my question is: Is ASU (honors) supply chain managament worth this additional $7000? What do you guys think? Asu is highly ranked in this major, but overall has high acceptance rate and party school reputation. WVU is party school too but it is much more affordable. Will being a good student with solid grades at WVU open some doors on the East Coast for finance/accounting major in terms of internships and opportunities? Or should I follow this ASU’s national ranking in supply chain management and rely on great internships there in AZ?</p>
<p>You should seek multiple perspectives this is mine. No ASU is not worth an addl $7K ever. Whether its ASU Barrett Honors or ASU reg, its a large state University with 74,000 students, its SCM program is well regarded, to a grad school that might make a difference, but few students ever get masters in SCM and where you got your undergrad would mean nothing in terms of where you wanted to go for a master in either SCM or finance or whatever, unless your talking about HYSP/eLAC’s. Employers don’t care whether you got an undergrad at ASU or WVU or StateU, its just undergrad, they dont pay more for one school or another and both schools will likely get you the same type of internship. I had a student at ASU get on SCM and an internship with a Mining Co in NV, no biggy thats the sort of internship you will get at ASU, likely at WVU ou would have the same opportunities with mining co’s in VA same difference.</p>
<p>ASU honors is nice, but I really don’t think it will buy you any more of what you want than any state U/internships/grad placement, rankings mean nothing to an employer, whether you are #5 school vs #8 means nothing and likely within 4 years when you graduate a top school now may be sliding lower by then , when you are looking for a job. </p>
<p>Beware of loans they are dangerous especially carrying loans when jobs are few, the fewer loans the better, I really would caution you too look at the total cost including loans and evaluate whether its worth the extra, I wouldn’t.</p>
<p>What would you major in at WVU?
I didn’t realize you’d take on so much debt for ASU… aren’t your parents contributing?</p>
<p>@MYOS1634 I will major in finance at WVU. It will be easily affordable for my parents and I will only have average student debt of $27000 after graduation. After ASU I will have most probably as much as $45000 in debt (after 4 years). In either school my parents will contribute something around $11000 including insurance and books every year. One main difference is that I will be able to save good amount of money after moving off-campus at WVU after my freshman year. At ASU I guess it is more difficult to save much by moving off-campus. </p>
<p>All in all, I like WVU’s location. 50% of students are from different states (mostly mid-atlantic region) and I would like to start my career on the East Coast. Does this location really helps in that matter? What’s more, WVU’s campus is not that bad as I previously thought. I made some research today and found out that Morgantown is located in a really picturesque region, which is a big plus for me.</p>
<p>So now my decision is basically: not so easily affordable ASU and its reputable scm program vs really affordable WVU and finance major. </p>
<p>I think you might have largely made your decision, few students stay with the major they initially pick, most change through the course of their studies, whilst today you say SCM, tomorrow you might think Finance or Accounting or Economics is better. If as you calculate that the diff might be as much as $20K more to got to ASU, then I think you have made your decision and it’s the right one, don’t second guess yourself.</p>
<p>Did you get into Honors at WVU? Why choose finance there, rather than SCM? </p>
<p>@MYOS1634 @Englishman Hi again. Those few last days have been really stressful because decision deadline May 1st is approaching rapidly. I paid my deposit to ASU, then changed my mind to WVU and yesterday it finally got to me that I have to define my real goals for the future. I am sure I want to start my career on the East Coast - if possible in NYC, Boston or Philadelphia. I understand that networking while in college is essential especially for students majoring in business so I don’t take ASU into consideration anymore (I will miss that beautiful campus and weather tough) because of its location. In regard to WVU, students attending this university have on average 250 less points on SAT than me and I am not admitted into its Honors College. I’ve always been very ambitious in school and I have that feeling that WVU may not be the best choice academically. As a matter of fact it’s not exactly on the East Coast (it is beautiful place from what I’ve read tough) where I want to live/work. So here are the school on the East Coast I got into and that are affordable to my family: </p>
<p>Ithaca College
University of Vermont
Seton Hall University
Hofstra University
SUNY Albany</p>
<p>I am leaning towards Ithaca College or University of Vermont but I’m open to any suggestions about other schools too. Last three schools are in not so appealing neighbourhoods and are commuter schools. Ithaca College is in small town. It doesn’t offer as great sports and things like i.e ASU offers but I can live without that I guess. It is in NY and that is a HUGE plus from what I’ve heard so far (especially if I want to live in NYC area in the future). However, it’s not so well-known for its business programs (maybe I’m wrong?) and it’s not ranked in businessweek ranking. It is #8 in north regional us news ranking (What place would that be in a national ranking?). What I like is that it has 11:1 student/faculty ratio so I will get more individual attention from professors for sure. It also offers some opportunities to spend one semester in NYC while gaining college credits. On the other hand there is University of Vermont. First of all it is in Vermont (practically very close to border of NY but still VT). It is bigger than Ithaca but still not huge. It is #82 in US national universities ranking but ranked very low in businessweek (almost last spot). There is ski/snowboard club in UVM which appeals to me - students can go to mountains every weekend if they want. Overall UVM offers more activities on campus that IC. From what I’ve seen on the internet UVM’s campus is really nice and is located in nice small city - Burlington. If you were someone set on majoring in finance (business admin at least) and someone planning on working in NYC, Boston, Phily what would you do? I really appreciate your great help. Thank you.</p>
<p>I agree your best choices then are Ithaca and UVermont. As a distant third, SUNY Albany because it’s pretty good for business (new facilities) but average academically.Internships will be key regardless of where you go so contact the career center and ask them questions about their services, internship opportunities, companies that recruit on campus, etc.
Ithaca is in the same town as Cornell, which is a plus, since the town while small has a real “college town feel” and there are lots of activities; if you like the outdoors, it’s near the Finger Lakes 
. Plus you can take a couple classes at Cornell as a junior or senior, so the ideal is for you to do the NY Semester Spring semester Sophomore year, then 1 class at Cornell during junior year while networking like mad for internships. Try to take communication classes since Ithaca is very well-regarded in that area. You’ll get the personal attention and interactive classes you would have gotten through Barrett, but you won’t have the large school feel for sure. For sports you can just go accross town to Cornell, or cheer on the Ithaca teams (or both.)
UVermont has a little of a “private school” feel because lots of wealthy kids come from OOS to ski. Burlington is a terrific town, with 3 colleges (St Mike’s, Champlain, and UVermont). Also, you’re right accross from Quebec which can be neat (I recommend taking French and going on a road trip to Montreal ) Probably a bit harder to get internships in NYC but not sure NYC is the alpha and omega… Check that they’re AACSB accredited.
What major would you have?
See if you can do Applied Math if SCM isn’t available? Check how easy it’d be to add a minor or to double major outside of business. </p>
<p>I concur with @MTOS1634 that Ithaca is your best choice, great college town close to NYC, internship opportunity and forget rankings, really and focus on getting to Grad school for an MBA after 2-4 years working after your undergrad at Ithaca, good luck. Ithaca College it is, you wont miss ASU.</p>
<p>Thank you @MYOS1634 @Englishman. I’m pretty much set on Ithaca College, because I want to start my career somewhere in this NYC area. Can you explain to me why is Ithaca’s School of business not ranked in businessweek ranking? Is this program too small or something? How would you compare to business schools of such universities? Do you know how it is ranked in undergrad business schools ranking by us news? (I don’t want to spend $30 just to see how it’s ranked among other schools).</p>
<p>Fairfield University - #58
Quinnipiac University - #66
Seton Hall - #78
Ohio University - #79
Hofstra University - #125</p>
<p>Most importantly how Ithaca’s Business School is compared to business schools at Fairfield University and Quinnipiac University? Both are ranked in the same regional universities ranking (north), fairfield being ranked slightly better and quinnipiac a bit lower. Does it that mean that those two have much more reputable programs? I am waitlisted at Fairfield University and that’s why I’m asking. </p>
<p>P.S I declined my ASU’s acceptance and requested deposit refund. Can I pay my deposit to Ithaca College now, even though I still don’t have my money refunded to my account? (It can take up to 4 weeks they told me). I don’t want them (Ithaca College) to think that I paid enrolment deposit to two schools at the same time.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.ithaca.edu/ir/student-consumer-info/postgradactivities/”>http://www.ithaca.edu/ir/student-consumer-info/postgradactivities/</a></p>
<p>The jobs obtained and grad schools are interesting. It’s not exhaustive, but a good sampling of what Ithaca students are doing after graduation. You can scroll through majors to accounting and business administration sections.</p>
<p>They have other data n the IR (Institutional research) you can check, but some things have restricted access. </p>
<p><a href=“http://public.tableausoftware.com/profile/#!/vizhome/IRIthacaCollegefallopeningenrollment/TotalHeadcountsFTEs”>http://public.tableausoftware.com/profile/#!/vizhome/IRIthacaCollegefallopeningenrollment/TotalHeadcountsFTEs</a>
At the top right hand side you can click on ‘state of permanent residence.’ Scroll over the states to see how many are enrolled from each state. You can see that about half are from NY and another 30% from NJ,MA and PA. So you get an idea of the student body makeup. Kids from our state go to Ithaca, but it’s usually for their music program, which is very reputable. I don’t know about business. They are well known in the east. That is why they are regional. And you want to be in the east. It will be fine. Very picturesque college town. You’ll love it.</p>
<p>Thank you @celesteroberts. How would you guys compare those business schools I mentioned in my last post? </p>