<p>Good for you</p>
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<p><a href=“The most underrated college in each state (map).”>The most underrated college in each state (map).;
<p>@teenbodybuilder Did you consider American in DC?, looks quite good, although I hear they aren’t generous with merit</p>
<p>I think I mentioned this in another thread, but really, you should evaluate how you might change your life to make yourself more content and satisfied. You hate teaching the nasty little ASU students. You hate the ostensible conservative culture. The weather is miserable, you imply. Um, …why are you doing that to yourself? Find a better life. Just do it.</p>
<p>@Englishman No, I didn’t, but it is a pretty nice school. I didn’t get the impression that there was very much school spirit…I’d like a decent D1 sports scene. One unique thing about it is that they host a really good radio show, affiliated with NPR. </p>
<p>Thank you @celesteroberts, but I am very happy in AZ it’s faults and all!</p>
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<p>Probably not quite debt free. A year of private medical school can run about $55,000 for tuition and fees; add about $15,000 in other costs like room and board, and you get $70,000 per year, or $280,000 total. A year of out-of-state public medical school can run up to $71,000 for tuition and fees, or $86,000 per year with other costs, or $344,000 total. And that does not include tuition increases between now and when you enter medical school, or tuition increases when you are in medical school. Remember also that you may not have much choice of medical school, since you would be lucky to get even one acceptance – take it (at the list price) or leave it.</p>
<p>So you would probably graduate from medical school with at least $30,000 to $94,000 in debt after your parents’ $250,000 contribution. While that is likely a lot lower than what many medical school graduates end up with in debt (and gives you more financial flexibility in choosing a specialty that you like, rather than being forced to seek the highest paying specialty to pay off huge debt), it is not “debt free”.</p>
<p><a href=“https://services.aamc.org/tsfreports/”>https://services.aamc.org/tsfreports/</a></p>
<p>@Englishman - please tell me that you are not still teaching at W.P. Carey. I really do not want my S taking a class from you with the very negative attitude you have towards the school you teach at. </p>
<p>oh thanks!, </p>
<p>No, not this semester but in the fall.</p>
<p>@teenbodybuilder ASU vs Georgetown, What are you waiting for?.. it’s no contest, at least if I were a HS Senior </p>
<p>Congrats on acceptance to a great school</p>
<p>@ucb </p>
<p>I haven’t looked for a while, but just pulling some numbers on schools close to me:
Georgetown: tuition $48,000
Johns Hopkins: tuition $47,000
UMD: tuition $29,000
With other expenses the privates are pricey, I can definitely see how the costs add up to $300k+.</p>
<p>I’d definitely try to focus my efforts on Georgetown and UMD with summer shadowing and volunteering. Not sure how much this would matter though. In state at UMD is a plus. I could probably commute from home to Georgetown which would save a lot of money. Though I likely won’t get to pick and choose if I get into any. </p>
<p>I don’t get told the exact values, but my dad puts it like this… If I go to ASU, he would cover it and med school. If I go to Georgetown he would cover it, then he’d do his best to help with med but no guarantees. He suggests the various military scholarships for this route. </p>
<p>Thanks for find some #s.</p>
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<p>Is that simply because the students in the honors programs are the top incoming students at the school, and therefore those most likely to attain the very high college GPA needed to get into a medical school or top 14 law school? Or most likely do well in their upper division courses in their major and do undergraduate research that gets good faculty recommendations in preparation for PhD study?</p>
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<p>Going on a final visit soon. I got into the NHS school and would have the Healthcare Management and Policy major. It apparently goes great with pre-med and I could still get a job in healthcare if I decide against/don’t get into medical school. However there’s some appeal in being a top student at ASU versus just an average student at GT. Money is also a factor. I think both are good opportunities. </p>
<p>Also taking a final visit to Barrett and I’m going to specifically see about the pre-health opportunities. I think you might be underrating Barrett’s med school placement. </p>
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<p>Seems like an obvious choice to choose Arizona State at $260,000 less (especially with medical school desires). Only those from very wealthy and willing families can have the luxury of paying a $260,000 premium to go to Georgetown. (And, Barrett or no Barrett, the top Arizona State students are very good, some going on to top PhD programs in their majors.)</p>
<p>OP here. I see there are mixed opinions about Barrett Honors at ASU. I decided to cross OH off my list btw. In two days I’m flying to Phoenix to experience ASU in person. I scheduled a tour for both regular ASU and Barrett Honors. I hope these tours will help me decide whether I want to go there or not. I crossed Seton Hall off my list as well because, even though, it’s close to NYC I don’t like the neighbourhood of the school. Campus itself doesn’t appeal to me as well. Finally, Ithaca College is still on my list. I like the face that it’s in NY, because I have some relatives living in NYC and I’d probably want to live on the East Coast after college (I’m still not sure though. I live in Europe and have never visited West Coast. That’s probably the reason I’m leaning more towards the East Coast). However, its business school is not ranked in the businessweek ranking. On the bright side it’s accredited in business (I guess only 10% of schools have that accreditation). I visited Ithaca this winter and I liked it (on the scale 0-10, I’d say 7). I didn’t have a chance to be on a tour though and right now I’m kind of unsure whether it’s a school I should consider. What would you guys choose? Barrett Honors at ASU (ranked internationally - which I guess would be a plus if I decide to return to Europe, great weather, awesome social scene and sports and opportunities of Honors Program) or Ithaca College (ranked regionally but not nationally, division III sports only, not such a great weather, but in the state of NY)?</p>
<p>Please do report here after your tour with impressions!
At this point, it’s purely a personal choice. There’s no wrong choice - it’ll be gut feeling, personal experience, vibe, etc. There’s no wrong choice - two very different universities for sure, but both are affordable, strong academically, and have other advantages.</p>
<p>You seem keen to rely on rankings, which whilst not living in the USA seems sensible, however I think you may be reading and relying more on these subjective rankings than might someone from the US or you rightly should. I’m European living in the USA, trust me after 30 years living in Europe few if any US colleges/universities have any name recognition of value in Europe, aside from the obvious HYPS and a few elite LAC’s. No-one in Europe will know of Arizona State or Ohio State other than they are located in those respective US States, about which most European’s know little or nothing. So I would encourage you to move away from Intl rankings per se, and consider where you would like to spend the next 4 years, if you’re big into sports fine, but ASU is so-so not un-like OU oe Ithaca, Div III or whatever means little unless you are a huge american sports fan, most ASU students are not big into sports, football being the most favoured.</p>
<p>Consider also where you will live, most ASU students stay on campus only one year generally, although Barrett are expected to stay two, but you can move off-campus sooner, the often ASU in-state students prefer to live at home after a year or two, it much cheaper and this does affect campus life, though the Tempe campus is preferred, really night-life/social scene is nothing much until you can frequent Mill Ave and visit bars, which remember in the USA means being 21 years old, NOT like Europe, when I frequented bars in the UK before graduating High School!, it’ll be the same in NY, but Ithaca is a ‘college’ town with Cornell nearby, I think Ithaca vs Tempe might be a close call.</p>
<p>Thank you @MYOS1634 and @Englishman for suggestions. It will be very though decision for sure. I’ve always imagined myself attending large state school big on sports and offering a lot of extracurricular activities. And ASU fits ideally + it has great weather. On the other hand being more familiar with the East Coast is the reason Ithaca College seems very interesting. However, I’m not sure how reputable it’s in the area where there are a lot of better schools around in NY and nearby states. So the question here is: If I want to live on the East Coast after college do I have to attend school on the East Coast? In reality, how difficult it is to find a job in the other part of the USA?ASU is close to CA though and I would really like to explore that part of the country as well - especially LA. Would that be difficult to find a job in CA after attending school in AZ?</p>
<p>It would not be difficult to find a job in the Western US (CA included) with a good degree from ASU. Ithaca is very well-known in communication/entertainment industry in NY State and throughout the tristate area (not in CA although they do have ties there due to their prominence in communication/info/etc). Ultimately it’s not the name of your university but what you do with the opportunities offered to you - whether you squander them or use every possibility. :)</p>
<p>Yes, I understand that what you make out of those opportunities really matters in the end, but still many people claim that location of your college is very important. Will that be impossible to find summer internship in NYC (I will stay at my family’s home) while studying at ASU? Or maybe Ithaca College might be much better in terms of these connections? </p>
<p>Contact ASU’s career services. Tell them you have family in NYC and would like to have internships during the summer: how likely is that? Do they have offerings right now, for instance? How can theèy/do they help?</p>